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Post by goblue75 on Jan 27, 2015 12:11:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 12:29:02 GMT -5
Sort of weird Mattison would say something like that considering Hardball's previous comments on the topic.
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Post by gobluegirl on Jan 27, 2015 13:18:02 GMT -5
he wouldn't. Mattison probably said something like "come to Michigan and get an education that is not available to most people" or something like that and the ignorant kid heard something completely different. Whatever. good riddance
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 27, 2015 13:21:34 GMT -5
Chris Brown, what about Keisean Lucier-South?
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Post by FartTaco on Jan 27, 2015 13:22:02 GMT -5
he wouldn't. Mattison probably said something like "come to Michigan and get an education that is not available to most people" or something like that and the ignorant kid heard something completely different. Whatever. good riddance I'm not even mad at the kid, it's his decision where he wants to go. But I don't appreciate the fact that he has to bad mouth the school and the coaches. It seems like the kid just wanted his name out there and he has done a pretty good job of doing that today.
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Post by FartTaco on Jan 27, 2015 13:25:16 GMT -5
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Post by philly on Jan 27, 2015 13:43:16 GMT -5
Not a good reaction by him and his father, but I don't think that is good recruiting angle to take.
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Post by goblue75 on Jan 27, 2015 14:43:08 GMT -5
Not a good reaction by him and his father, but I don't think that is good recruiting angle to take. No context here and I am supposed to believe this over Greg Mattison's recruiting history/judgement? Right.
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Post by philly on Jan 27, 2015 14:59:39 GMT -5
Doesn't really matter, just more bad press. Meanwhile OSU probably signed 3 more 5 stars today.
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 27, 2015 15:08:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 19:13:10 GMT -5
Always thought the stars were somewhat directional and somewhat bullshit.
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Post by flemgoblue on Jan 27, 2015 20:35:07 GMT -5
Not a good reaction by him and his father, but I don't think that is good recruiting angle to take. No context here and I am supposed to believe this over Greg Mattison's recruiting history/judgement? Right. im guessing he said something like "you would have an opportunity that you wouldnt have had without football". Trying to sell the academic side.. and they're reading something into it that wasnt there
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Post by mtdman on Jan 27, 2015 23:32:00 GMT -5
Wait a minute. We have Tyrone Wheatley as a coach, and his kid is going to USC? WTF? Did UofM offer him?
Also, when RR first came to Michigan, one of the Big Ten coaches was all up in arms about RR poaching players from him. Is that not an issue any more? Hardballs is openly pursuing commits to other schools, and trying to 'flip' them. How is that different from what RR was doing?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 23:34:12 GMT -5
Wait a minute. We have Tyrone Wheatley as a coach, and his kid is going to USC? WTF? Did UofM offer him? Also, when RR first came to Michigan, one of the Big Ten coaches was all up in arms about RR poaching players from him. Is that not an issue any more? Hardballs is openly pursuing commits to other schools, and trying to 'flip' them. How is that different from what RR was doing? Yes to your first question. And it's "Hardball". Singular.
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Post by mtdman on Jan 28, 2015 0:43:52 GMT -5
Wait a minute. We have Tyrone Wheatley as a coach, and his kid is going to USC? WTF? Did UofM offer him? Also, when RR first came to Michigan, one of the Big Ten coaches was all up in arms about RR poaching players from him. Is that not an issue any more? Hardballs is openly pursuing commits to other schools, and trying to 'flip' them. How is that different from what RR was doing? Yes to your first question. And it's "Hardball". Singular. In Michigan, everything is plural. Meijers, Krogers, Kmarts, Walmarts, etc. Hardballs.
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Post by joeking1978 on Jan 28, 2015 7:00:35 GMT -5
You forgot Fords
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 28, 2015 8:41:40 GMT -5
2016 QB Mesahiah DeWeaver has decommitted from UM, after meeting with Harbaugh last night. According to Sam Webb, he was told that UM would be recruiting multiple QBs in 2016, and apparently he didn't like hearing that.
Plus they have Malzone and Gentry in 2015.
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Post by goblue75 on Jan 28, 2015 9:21:32 GMT -5
2016 QB Mesahiah DeWeaver has decommitted from UM, after meeting with Harbaugh last night. According to Sam Webb, he was told that UM would be recruiting multiple QBs in 2016, and apparently he didn't like hearing that. Plus they have Malzone and Gentry in 2015. Hardballs recruited 2 QB's just about every year he coached. Some kids can deal with it, some cant. Cest la vie
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 28, 2015 9:33:21 GMT -5
2016 QB Mesahiah DeWeaver has decommitted from UM, after meeting with Harbaugh last night. According to Sam Webb, he was told that UM would be recruiting multiple QBs in 2016, and apparently he didn't like hearing that. Plus they have Malzone and Gentry in 2015. Hardballs recruited 2 QB's just about every year he coached. Some kids can deal with it, some cant. Cest la vie The level of competition that he is creating at the QB will be sky high. It's a smart strategy, everyone knows a QB can make or break you.
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Post by aaugusti on Jan 28, 2015 9:43:07 GMT -5
Sam also posted on GBW that the "Mattison getting thrown out of the house" story was a complete fabrication.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 28, 2015 9:50:53 GMT -5
Chris Brown, what about Keisean Lucier-South? Didn't ever seem to be a legitimate option for the new staff. Too late in the process. As far as Wheatley goes...I spoke too soon. I was at the UM basketball game last night, and he was there on what looked to be a "secret" official visit. Was sitting next to Jay Harbaugh (TE coach) and Moe Ways. Also saw Drevno (O-line/OC) and his dad there with him. And on the DeWeaver thing, I'm not sweating it at all. Michigan is in pretty good shape with the very best QBs in the 2016 class. Jim Harbaugh was at the school of this kid yesterday, and apparently this kid is really into Michigan. He is also teammates with this kid, and they supposedly want to play together. I really think the 2016 class could be a monster.
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Post by goblue75 on Jan 28, 2015 12:41:37 GMT -5
Sam also posted on GBW that the "Mattison getting thrown out of the house" story was a complete fabrication. lol, there was doubt?
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 28, 2015 12:58:50 GMT -5
The Mike Weber ship does appear to have sailed, though. Michigan has been out extending offers to some 2015 running backs today. Orlando Bradford was offered but stated that he's sticking with his Arizona commit. They also offered current Wisconsin CB commit Titus Booker as a running back, and he is currently planning on visiting this upcoming weekend. Name | From | Ht/Wt | Pos | Rivals | Scout | 24/7 | ESPN | Notes | Titus Booker
| Grayslake, IL
| 6', 180
| RB
| 3*
| 4* (#225)
| 3*
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| Wisconsin commit. Visit 1/30
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ESPN says Size-Strength-Speed Booker has very good length on a muscular looking frame. Will have more room to fill out with more time in a college weight room. Plays with good strength as he is a physical runner and usually goes forward after being hit. Is an running back/defensive back who has start and stop ability and will get to top speed within a few steps. Has the range to make plays from sideline-to-sideline as a back end defender. Bottom Line Booker is a solid prospect as he has the body type that would suggest he could possibly become a corner/safety down the road. Has the quickness to recover and make plays in the short area. A potential Power 5 recruit. Scout says Hudl HighlightsESPN lists testing results that are legit, and Booker ran a 4.41 40, and a 37.8-inch vertical. He also runs track, and was the runner-up in the Illinois State Finals last year with a 10.64 100 (probably wind aided). Seems like a really good athlete, but his offers are strictly from MAC schools, Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, Kentucky and Michigan. His film is solid, but he looks a little stiff when he tries to cut, and he seems to bounce everything outside. I wonder if maybe there were academic concerns?
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Post by steve6884 on Jan 28, 2015 14:48:20 GMT -5
Area coaches: Greg Mattison's always been a class recruiterNN ARBOR -- NCAA rule prohibits Greg Mattison -- and any college football coach -- from speaking publicly about an unsigned prospect. So when Nebraska commit DaiShon Neal and his father spoke on an Omaha radio station Tuesday about how they took offense to Mattison's recruiting pitch relating to academics, Michigan's defensive line coach was unable to publicly defend himself. However, there isn't a shortage of others who are willing to do that for him. "Greg Mattison has always came with the approach of 'we need your child, we need him at our school and we would like to do whatever it takes to get the young man to mature to be a man and grow as a person in our football program,' " Cass Tech coach Thomas Wilcher said Wednesday. "Michigan is a school that isn't just about football, it's about culture, social experiences and the education that makes you become a contributor to society. And coach Mattison cares about all of that. "Coach Mattison is caring, he's like a loving father to players who can put his arm around guys and help push them in the right direction. He wants to know you as a person and help you as a person. That's him." Reached by phone Wednesday, Neal's high school coach Jay Ball (Omaha Central) said he spoke with Mattison on Tuesday, and has a great deal of respect for Michigan's defensive line coach. He says, from his understanding, there are two sides to this story, and it's entirely possible something was misinterpreted along the way. Though he did not want to get into any further detail on the matter publicly. "First of all, DaiShon Neal is a great kid and coach Mattison is a guy that I have a lot of respect for, he's been in the coaching business for 40 years and deserves every amount of respect that he gets," Ball said. "It sounds to me like there's two sides to the story, and maybe things were misinterpreted. "And that's about all I'm really going to say." Wilcher, of course, had a number of players head to Michigan to play for Mattison while he coached under now former Michigan coach Brady Hoke. At the moment, Michigan has six players from Cass Tech on its roster. And even while not every Cass Tech player goes to Michigan, Wilcher says Mattison typically leaves a strong impression on his own prospects -- usually talking with them about the importance of an education, and how "special" of an education at Michigan can be. "With coach Mattison, it's about knowing you as a person and helping uplift you so he can coach you based upon the needs you need as a person so you can grow as a man," Wilcher adds. "He's come to my school several times, talked with young men about growth. About personal growth. How he'd like to see them become a better person and a student, and he always brings a warm feeling, a bright smile and the nicest laugh. "He just brings a great personality, and that personality probably got him into the household of that recruit in the first place." Oak Park High School coach/athletic director Greg Carter has also had a long-standing relationship with Mattison, as he's had former players like Cam Gordon and Devin Gardner play at Michigan. Carter said he, too, was surprised to hear the comments made by Neal and his father, stating that every experience he's ever had with Mattison during a recruiting trip is a positive one. So much so that whenever Mattison visits his school, he often asks him to speak with younger football players who aren't currently being recruited, to discuss the role of academics relating to college football. "He's always very helpful with kids, with football and school, I've never, ever had any issue with coach Mattison," Carter said. "He's a straightforward guy. He tells the kids what they need and what's required to go to Michigan, and it gives them motivation to have them work hard to get there. "Everybody speaks highly of him." Mattison's track record as a defensive coach has been the thing that garners him the most notoriety. But at the same time, he's been a highly-respected recruiter as well, and not just at Michigan. Mattison's also been a college coach at Northwestern, Western Michigan, Navy, Texas A&M, Notre Dame and Florida. In 2013, he was recognized as one of the top recruiters in the country. In most recruiting circles, Mattison's about as well-respected as it gets. "He cares a great deal about players growing up and becoming fine young men," Carter added. "He's a great person."
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 28, 2015 14:54:50 GMT -5
Harbaugh met/meeting with Mike Weber today.
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