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Post by aaugusti on Dec 19, 2015 0:56:02 GMT -5
www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/ndamukong-suh/His cap hit is 6.1 million this year and balloons to 28 million next year. Add to that Tannehill's deal which next year goes to 11 million the. 20 million per year. Dolphins cap situation is in such bad shape.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 1:00:52 GMT -5
I like how I got suh in this great discussion.
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Post by Pollux on Dec 19, 2015 6:59:10 GMT -5
I like how I got suh in this great discussion. He wants to bitch about Stafford and Calvin but Suh would have also had a crippling cap situation that he's not worth. Calvin's deal was a bad deal. Stafford's looked that way at the time but ended up being pretty reasonable considering what QB's are getting paid now. Suh's is a nightmare.
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Post by Pollux on Dec 19, 2015 7:07:10 GMT -5
As a GM you had to have known that out of Suh and Fairley that you may only be able to keep one and possibly lose both. That means you should have taken Donald instead of a Ebron at 10. That was so much Lombardi's doing. It had to be. His offense needed a big Tight End similar to Jimmy Graham. The problem is that Jimmy Graham wasn't a high draft pick, nobody takes a Tight End at 10, and Ebron fucking sucks.
Now we still need another corner. Mayhew was a corner so I don't understand how he never thought we needed one. I'm done with taking these developmental late round project guys. We still need a Tackle and now you need more DT's and a DE. Drafting defensive line around here is starting to be like Wide Receivers used to be.
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Post by eruff on Dec 19, 2015 9:29:03 GMT -5
WTF are you supposed to measure when the Lions are due to pay him 22.5m (17m base and 5.5m bonus) in 2016? The bonus was already paid when he signed the deal. Maybe you should educate yourself on how the NFL salary cap works. Another dumb ass Lion fan. I do actually know how it works and maybe if you stop lying to yourself and read facts then you would understand better. Cap Hit You might hear that a player is due $5 million in salary, but his total salary cap hit is actually $7 million. That’s because a cap hit represents a player’s salary plus any bonuses they are due during the league year.www.ibtimes.com/2015-nfl-free-agency-explaining-franchise-tag-dead-money-salary-cap-hits-more-1825640Again his salary may be 17m which nobody said it wasn't, Padford has a sighing bonus which is costing the Lions another 5.5m for the year of 2016. Again which is why his CAP HIT will be 22.5m for 2016. Lets address the lie that his signing bonus was paid up front. His signing bonus was prorated for the length of the extension. www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/matthew-stafford/Signing bonus The only guaranteed money with this structure is a signing bonus, which is prorated or spread out evenly over the life of a contract for a maximum of five years. A big signing bonus can keep salary cap numbers low in the early years of the deal while making it difficult for a team to cut a player because signing bonus proration accelerates onto a team's current salary cap upon release. If you're not satisfied here's the actual NFL rule. CBA, Article 16, Section 6, Paragraph 5: Proration: The total amount of any signing bonus shall be prorated over the term of the Player Contract (on a straight-line basis, unless subject to acceleration or some other treatment as provided in this Agreement), with a maximum proration of five years, in determining Team Salary and Salary.
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Post by aaugusti on Dec 19, 2015 9:44:26 GMT -5
The bonus was already paid when he signed the deal. Maybe you should educate yourself on how the NFL salary cap works. Another dumb ass Lion fan. I do actually know how it works and maybe if you stop lying to yourself and read facts then you would understand better. Cap Hit You might hear that a player is due $5 million in salary, but his total salary cap hit is actually $7 million. That’s because a cap hit represents a player’s salary plus any bonuses they are due during the league year.www.ibtimes.com/2015-nfl-free-agency-explaining-franchise-tag-dead-money-salary-cap-hits-more-1825640Again his salary may be 17m which nobody said it wasn't, Padford has a sighing bonus which is costing the Lions another 5.5m for the year of 2016. Again which is why his CAP HIT will be 22.5m for 2016. Lets address the lie that his signing bonus was paid up front. His signing bonus was prorated for the length of the extension. www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/matthew-stafford/Signing bonus The only guaranteed money with this structure is a signing bonus, which is prorated or spread out evenly over the life of a contract for a maximum of five years. A big signing bonus can keep salary cap numbers low in the early years of the deal while making it difficult for a team to cut a player because signing bonus proration accelerates onto a team's current salary cap upon release. If you're not satisfied here's the actual NFL rule. CBA, Article 16, Section 6, Paragraph 5: Proration: The total amount of any signing bonus shall be prorated over the term of the Player Contract (on a straight-line basis, unless subject to acceleration or some other treatment as provided in this Agreement), with a maximum proration of five years, in determining Team Salary and Salary. You just wasted a lot of time saying the exact same thing I said in about 5 times as many words. I know exactly how the cap works, and I'm not defending Stafford you retard.
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Post by Pollux on Dec 19, 2015 11:01:02 GMT -5
Another dumb ass Lion fan. I do actually know how it works and maybe if you stop lying to yourself and read facts then you would understand better. Cap Hit You might hear that a player is due $5 million in salary, but his total salary cap hit is actually $7 million. That’s because a cap hit represents a player’s salary plus any bonuses they are due during the league year.www.ibtimes.com/2015-nfl-free-agency-explaining-franchise-tag-dead-money-salary-cap-hits-more-1825640Again his salary may be 17m which nobody said it wasn't, Padford has a sighing bonus which is costing the Lions another 5.5m for the year of 2016. Again which is why his CAP HIT will be 22.5m for 2016. Lets address the lie that his signing bonus was paid up front. His signing bonus was prorated for the length of the extension. www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/matthew-stafford/Signing bonus The only guaranteed money with this structure is a signing bonus, which is prorated or spread out evenly over the life of a contract for a maximum of five years. A big signing bonus can keep salary cap numbers low in the early years of the deal while making it difficult for a team to cut a player because signing bonus proration accelerates onto a team's current salary cap upon release. If you're not satisfied here's the actual NFL rule. CBA, Article 16, Section 6, Paragraph 5: Proration: The total amount of any signing bonus shall be prorated over the term of the Player Contract (on a straight-line basis, unless subject to acceleration or some other treatment as provided in this Agreement), with a maximum proration of five years, in determining Team Salary and Salary. You just wasted a lot of time saying the exact same thing I said in about 5 times as many words. I know exactly how the cap works, and I'm not defending Stafford you retard. He didn't say it. He cut and pasted links and highlights from other peoples opinions. Except for calling you a "dumb ass Lions fan". I think that's his only original thought.
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Post by eruff on Dec 19, 2015 11:03:06 GMT -5
Another dumb ass Lion fan. I do actually know how it works and maybe if you stop lying to yourself and read facts then you would understand better. Cap Hit You might hear that a player is due $5 million in salary, but his total salary cap hit is actually $7 million. That’s because a cap hit represents a player’s salary plus any bonuses they are due during the league year.www.ibtimes.com/2015-nfl-free-agency-explaining-franchise-tag-dead-money-salary-cap-hits-more-1825640Again his salary may be 17m which nobody said it wasn't, Padford has a sighing bonus which is costing the Lions another 5.5m for the year of 2016. Again which is why his CAP HIT will be 22.5m for 2016. Lets address the lie that his signing bonus was paid up front. His signing bonus was prorated for the length of the extension. www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/matthew-stafford/Signing bonus The only guaranteed money with this structure is a signing bonus, which is prorated or spread out evenly over the life of a contract for a maximum of five years. A big signing bonus can keep salary cap numbers low in the early years of the deal while making it difficult for a team to cut a player because signing bonus proration accelerates onto a team's current salary cap upon release. If you're not satisfied here's the actual NFL rule. CBA, Article 16, Section 6, Paragraph 5: Proration: The total amount of any signing bonus shall be prorated over the term of the Player Contract (on a straight-line basis, unless subject to acceleration or some other treatment as provided in this Agreement), with a maximum proration of five years, in determining Team Salary and Salary. You just wasted a lot of time saying the exact same thing I said in about 5 times as many words. I know exactly how the cap works, and I'm not defending Stafford you retard. Then why get involved boot sniffer?
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Post by eruff on Dec 19, 2015 11:04:48 GMT -5
You just wasted a lot of time saying the exact same thing I said in about 5 times as many words. I know exactly how the cap works, and I'm not defending Stafford you retard. He didn't say it. He cut and pasted links and highlights from other peoples opinions. Except for calling you a "dumb ass Lions fan". I think that's his only original thought. Those are facts of what he will cost the Lions. Those aren't opinions.
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Post by Pollux on Dec 19, 2015 11:08:46 GMT -5
He didn't say it. He cut and pasted links and highlights from other peoples opinions. Except for calling you a "dumb ass Lions fan". I think that's his only original thought.  Those are facts of what he will cost the Lions. Those aren't opinions. Everybody has a cap hit. Everybody. His base salary is consistent with what similarly ranked QB's make. It's the last time I'm going to post it. You can rant afterwards for as long as you want but it's still fact. Since you are all about the facts now.
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Post by eruff on Dec 19, 2015 11:09:32 GMT -5
The bonus was already paid when he signed the deal. Maybe you should educate yourself on how the NFL salary cap works. His post about Suh was very telling to that fact. I'm not familiar with the numbers on Suh's deal in Miami but I'm sure they're taking a cap hit somewhere. Maybe not year one but on the back end for sure. He didn't play up to that deal this year either making it not worth it. I don't know of many good coaches that would sign up for the Miami job. Such contract plus the overall cap is very bad. Tannehill's deal is a back breaker. Below average Qb with a huge deal sounds familiar….
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Post by eruff on Dec 19, 2015 11:16:12 GMT -5
Those are facts of what he will cost the Lions. Those aren't opinions. Everybody has a cap hit. Everybody. His base salary is consistent with what similarly ranked QB's make. It's the last time I'm going to post it. You can rant afterwards for as long as you want but it's still fact. Since you are all about the facts now. Yes you're correct, but everyone doesn't have a bead deal either. There's only 6 Qb's worth today's inflated market.
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Post by reggie on Dec 21, 2015 13:19:46 GMT -5
the number of national games the lions have this year is mindbottling.
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Post by aaugusti on Dec 21, 2015 13:42:13 GMT -5
That's what happens when you win 11 games the year before.
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Post by flemgoblue on Dec 21, 2015 14:14:27 GMT -5
It amazes me sometimes how dumb our local radio guys are. Rico has said repeatedly in the last week how easy it is to make the nfl playoffs every other year because you get an easy schedule when you have a bad year. This isn't 1990... a bad year impacts two games on your schedule out of sixteen. Everything else is planned years ahead of time on a divisional rotation
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Post by aaugusti on Dec 21, 2015 14:49:25 GMT -5
Drew Sharp and some other idiot that was filling in for Dery were saying the same thing on Friday. So awful.
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Post by Juicy on Dec 21, 2015 15:22:16 GMT -5
The 2016 draft is not producing any starting QB's in the NFL. Probably career back ups and third stringers. This is the most ridiculous statement that pollux has ever made. And that is saying something.
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Post by fastfreddie on Dec 21, 2015 21:12:36 GMT -5
The title of this thread is Lions GameDay.
It doesn't feel like a Lions GameDay. It's hard to be excited for this game.
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Post by reggie on Dec 21, 2015 21:32:03 GMT -5
dong
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Post by philly on Dec 21, 2015 22:01:03 GMT -5
The NFL blows this year. Just can't get into any of theses games lions or not.
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Post by mattz1318 on Dec 21, 2015 22:01:37 GMT -5
Wtf just happened at the end of the half?? Lions call a time out which they dont have. NO gets a td, but get a penalty...then all of a sudden half is over? Dont they get an untimed down??
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Post by reggie on Dec 21, 2015 22:06:01 GMT -5
untimed down is only on a def. penalty.
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Post by reggie on Dec 21, 2015 22:48:15 GMT -5
it's almost like i've seen this game before.
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Post by mattz1318 on Dec 21, 2015 23:06:00 GMT -5
it's almost like i've seen this game before. Lol yep
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 23:18:29 GMT -5
Respect the Cooter
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