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Post by smoothskillzz on Jan 12, 2015 23:16:51 GMT -5
i seen da crap and he did not live up to expectations that were fair or unfairly placed on him...... You really have to ask yourself... Honestly, how many centers playing in the NHL (for anybody) would have taken minutes away from Yzerman or Federov? Super Mario, Gretzky, Messier.... Primeau had a great career. It just was never gonna be in Detroit to the liking of anyone. i totally agree i actually rooted for him dude had good size played physical at times..........someone went as far as a drako comparison i wouldnt go that far but as soon as bowman got here scotty started with da mind games and primes was doomed
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Post by thecouncil on Jan 13, 2015 19:54:17 GMT -5
Primeau is the best Darko comparison if that's what you're looking for. Just because that was a pretty stacked class and Primeau was a disappointment here. Shawn Burr probably belongs in this conversation somewhere too. Dafuq? Primeau had a 15 year career and was a 30 goal scorer on multiple occasions. The flyers had a keith primeau night after he had to retire due to concussions. The darko comparison is flat out dumb. Jagr, Nolan, Brodeur, Tkachuk, Hatcher, Sydor, etc. That's a stacked class that the Wings had a top 3 pick and ended up with a guy with less than 100 goals for them. And six goals in 64 playoff games by the way. It's similar to Darko in that you picked high in a draft loaded with HOFers or All-Stars and ended up with a guy that didn't live up to his potential and was out of Detroit in a handful of years.
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Post by caper on Jan 13, 2015 20:22:36 GMT -5
Dafuq? Primeau had a 15 year career and was a 30 goal scorer on multiple occasions. The flyers had a keith primeau night after he had to retire due to concussions. The darko comparison is flat out dumb. Jagr, Nolan, Brodeur, Tkachuk, Hatcher, Sydor, etc. That's a stacked class that the Wings had a top 3 pick and ended up with a guy with less than 100 goals for them. And six goals in 64 playoff games by the way. It's similar to Darko in that you picked high in a draft loaded with HOFers or All-Stars and ended up with a guy that didn't live up to his potential and was out of Detroit in a handful of years. tkachuk wwas drafted 19th, brodeur 20th, cant really throw them into the arguement the only bust in the top 8 that draft class was Scott Scissons, only played in 2 NHL games. Primeau's career was cut short, but he still played in 900 games, over 600 pts and 1500 pm good career, certainly not darko's career
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Post by thecouncil on Jan 13, 2015 22:40:25 GMT -5
Right, he's not as bad as Darko but that wasn't the question. It was who is the Red Wings Darko, and I think Primeau is the closest thing you're going to come to. Drafted in one of the best first rounds ever, physical attributes off the charts, mentally fragile, came in behind beloved players already on the team, seemed doomed with Detroit fans before they ever did anything, fun to root against, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 22:44:56 GMT -5
Right, he's not as bad as Darko but that wasn't the question. It was who is the Red Wings Darko, and I think Primeau is the closest thing you're going to come to. Drafted in one of the best first rounds ever, physical attributes off the charts, mentally fragile, came in behind beloved players already on the team, seemed doomed with Detroit fans before they ever did anything, fun to root against, etc. He is the closest thing to it. Someone needs to repeat the question at hand.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 22:46:02 GMT -5
I had nothing in mind really. I want to find the Wings version of Darko basically This was the question...
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Post by Juicy on Jan 14, 2015 9:03:48 GMT -5
Dafuq? Primeau had a 15 year career and was a 30 goal scorer on multiple occasions. The flyers had a keith primeau night after he had to retire due to concussions. The darko comparison is flat out dumb. Jagr, Nolan, Brodeur, Tkachuk, Hatcher, Sydor, etc. That's a stacked class that the Wings had a top 3 pick and ended up with a guy with less than 100 goals for them. And six goals in 64 playoff games by the way. It's similar to Darko in that you picked high in a draft loaded with HOFers or All-Stars and ended up with a guy that didn't live up to his potential and was out of Detroit in a handful of years. He brought back shanny in return so it's clear he wasn't a bum. What did darko bring back? I would rather have shanny that all those names but jagr and brodeaur
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Post by Juicy on Jan 14, 2015 9:05:09 GMT -5
Isnt owen Nolan basically Keith premieau?
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Post by philly on Jan 14, 2015 9:06:36 GMT -5
Jagr, Nolan, Brodeur, Tkachuk, Hatcher, Sydor, etc. That's a stacked class that the Wings had a top 3 pick and ended up with a guy with less than 100 goals for them. And six goals in 64 playoff games by the way. It's similar to Darko in that you picked high in a draft loaded with HOFers or All-Stars and ended up with a guy that didn't live up to his potential and was out of Detroit in a handful of years. He brought back shanny in return so it's clear he wasn't a bum. What did darko bring back?I would rather have shanny that all those names but jagr and brodeaur Stuckey
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Post by Juicy on Jan 14, 2015 9:09:55 GMT -5
He brought back shanny in return so it's clear he wasn't a bum. What did darko bring back?I would rather have shanny that all those names but jagr and brodeaur Stuckey I love me some nasty but let's not say he was on shannys level. Where's stuck nasty playing now?
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Post by thecouncil on Jan 14, 2015 9:20:21 GMT -5
Isnt owen Nolan basically Keith premieau? Owen Nolan scored 400+ goals and had a few year window where he was one of the best scorers in the league. Nolan went to six AS games, Primeau went to two. Nolan won a gold medal. I don't know that he lived up to the hype but I'd take Nolan over Primeau all day. He also called his shot on a breakaway in an All-Star game which was awesome and could sway my opinion as I was 13 when it happened and it seemed like the coolest shit ever.
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Post by philly on Jan 14, 2015 9:22:25 GMT -5
I love me some nasty but let's not say he was on shannys level. Where's stuck nasty playing now? Pacers. I think he started out good there, but his numbers are below his career averages now.
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Post by thecouncil on Jan 14, 2015 9:27:22 GMT -5
Jagr, Nolan, Brodeur, Tkachuk, Hatcher, Sydor, etc. That's a stacked class that the Wings had a top 3 pick and ended up with a guy with less than 100 goals for them. And six goals in 64 playoff games by the way. It's similar to Darko in that you picked high in a draft loaded with HOFers or All-Stars and ended up with a guy that didn't live up to his potential and was out of Detroit in a handful of years. He brought back shanny in return so it's clear he wasn't a bum. What did darko bring back? I would rather have shanny that all those names but jagr and brodeaur I'm partial to the moose person that was Keith Tkachuk but yeah Shanny worked out pretty well. Jimm Carson netted Wayne Gretzky once upon a time. I don't think one equals the other.
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Post by psycaz on Jan 14, 2015 9:39:11 GMT -5
Hatcher was a beast on the blue line for a long time.
It's kinda nice if Primeau is the Wings' Darko. The guy did have a long NHL career, just not in Detroit. He had talent. Learned to use it.
Darko, almost complete opposite. Everyone saw the potential. No one could get him to reach it. Didn't last too long in the league.
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Post by thecouncil on Jan 14, 2015 9:55:55 GMT -5
Fun fact: Darko made 52 million dollars in the NBA.
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Post by philly on Jan 14, 2015 9:58:06 GMT -5
Fun fact: Darko made 52 million dollars in the NBA. That's disgusting. Although I'm sure he blew through all of it in a couple of years. I think I saw he's kickboxing now.
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Post by thecouncil on Jan 14, 2015 9:58:10 GMT -5
Which is almost 20 million dollars more than Prineau made over the life of his career. And only 8 million less than Shanahan made in his.
Sports are fun.
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Post by Juicy on Jan 14, 2015 10:02:25 GMT -5
I might be tainted by the fact Primeau was a nice guy from the Ville who played street hockey with us. (As well as Lidstrom, sillinger and Sheldon Kennedy.
Only the cunt Dallas drake wouldn't come play.
Also I have a whalers jersey because of shanny so getting him was fucking awesome
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Post by smoothskillzz on Jan 14, 2015 12:48:08 GMT -5
Fun fact: Darko made 52 million dollars in the NBA. I think I saw he's kickboxing now. was kickboxing until a kick 2 da face ended this charade.......
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