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Post by The Hoff on Dec 31, 2019 18:50:07 GMT -5
LOL. Mueller spent 2.5 years and $35mil and couldn't verify a word of the Dossier. IG Horowitz report concludes that the FBI tried to verify it, but the witnesses said it was untrue. Sure, there are people still touting it, but the Dossier was partisan political junk, and the FISA Court has issued an Order reprimanding the FBI for using it. But keep on believing it. LOL I didn’t claim to believe anything. I just posted the tweet because you keep talking about it. I was responding to the tweet you posted "at random."
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Post by Pollux on Jan 1, 2020 17:36:57 GMT -5
I didn’t claim to believe anything. I just posted the tweet because you keep talking about it. I was responding to the tweet you posted "at random." That’s why we’re here is it not? But for someone who always votes third party etc. you sure do work with a lot of assumptions, seem to have a conservative leaning opinion, and enjoy GOP talking points.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 1, 2020 18:20:13 GMT -5
I was responding to the tweet you posted "at random." That’s why we’re here is it not? But for someone who always votes third party etc. you sure do work with a lot of assumptions, seem to have a conservative leaning opinion, and enjoy GOP talking points. I support the Constitution. When I see a party ripping up due process rights, I call them out. So sorry if you see protecting constitutional rights as talking points. I read the Mueller report, the Ukraine call transcript and the IG report. They are all pretty clear and connect the dots. The external reporting by people such as Atkinson are even more illuminating. The Russian collusion story was a hoax. It was created to justify spying on a presidential campaign. (Horowitz). When that failed they tried Ukraine. They changed the rules to allow the whistleblower complaint. Pre August, it had to be based on first hand knowledge. The whistleblower failed to divulge he was working 8th Schiff and his staff. That's perjury-the complaint is attested under oath. These are the facts. You can dismiss them as talking points, but that is only to ignore what is happening, and justify the lawlessness.
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Post by Pollux on Jan 2, 2020 5:56:22 GMT -5
That’s why we’re here is it not? But for someone who always votes third party etc. you sure do work with a lot of assumptions, seem to have a conservative leaning opinion, and enjoy GOP talking points. I support the Constitution. When I see a party ripping up due process rights, I call them out. So sorry if you see protecting constitutional rights as talking points. I read the Mueller report, the Ukraine call transcript and the IG report. They are all pretty clear and connect the dots. The external reporting by people such as Atkinson are even more illuminating. The Russian collusion story was a hoax. It was created to justify spying on a presidential campaign. (Horowitz). When that failed they tried Ukraine. They changed the rules to allow the whistleblower complaint. Pre August, it had to be based on first hand knowledge. The whistleblower failed to divulge he was working 8th Schiff and his staff. That's perjury-the complaint is attested under oath. These are the facts. You can dismiss them as talking points, but that is only to ignore what is happening, and justify the lawlessness. I think the issue here is that in your distaste for how Democrats have done things and how they’re unconstitutional that you’ve neglected the fact that both sides are threatening it. If you’re about the constitution and protecting it then that’s what it shouldn’t be about. That’s not what you’ve been arguing. If you didn’t like my opinion when I originally brought it up that’s fine. None of the things I brought up or how flawed the process was which you brought up change whether it was all right or wrong. It was, is, and continues to be wrong.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 2, 2020 17:18:18 GMT -5
I don't understand your point about"both sides are threatening it." Please expound.
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Post by Pollux on Jan 6, 2020 19:18:09 GMT -5
I don't understand your point about"both sides are threatening it." Please expound. You don’t believe that both the Democrat and Republican parties have taken actions that have threatened, endangered, and subverted the constitution?
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 9, 2020 17:04:02 GMT -5
I don't understand your point about"both sides are threatening it." Please expound. You don’t believe that both the Democrat and Republican parties have taken actions that have threatened, endangered, and subverted the constitution? Of course they have. On a daily basis. Some affronts are worse than others. Removing a president for political reasons is worse than failing to enact a budget, or deferring their regulatory powers to the executive branch.
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Post by Pollux on Jan 16, 2020 16:59:37 GMT -5
You don’t believe that both the Democrat and Republican parties have taken actions that have threatened, endangered, and subverted the constitution? Of course they have. On a daily basis. Some affronts are worse than others. Removing a president for political reasons is worse than failing to enact a budget, or deferring their regulatory powers to the executive branch. I agree. Removal probably isn’t going to happen either way but it should not be for political reasons. I don’t believe the current attempt is just for political reasons. It’s just being done in an ass backwards way. The presented case is extremely thin. A lengthier investigation or an attempt to enforce the subpoenas perhaps would have uncovered the needed information or further strengthened the obstruction charge.
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 17, 2020 13:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 19, 2020 10:22:03 GMT -5
Very disappointed in this. I was hoping he would have the good sense to resign. He's going to cost the University millions when they fire him after another disappointing season next year. He's too stubborn to right the ship.
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 20, 2020 9:24:50 GMT -5
Very disappointed in this. I was hoping he would have the good sense to resign. He's going to cost the University millions when they fire him after another disappointing season next year. He's too stubborn to right the ship. And no changes to the coaching staff?
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 21, 2020 16:32:55 GMT -5
Very disappointed in this. I was hoping he would have the good sense to resign. He's going to cost the University millions when they fire him after another disappointing season next year. He's too stubborn to right the ship. And no changes to the coaching staff? I have yet to see any changes to the coaching staff. Last year he shuffled the deck.
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Post by Pollux on Jan 30, 2020 12:04:38 GMT -5
Sports in the city of Detroit is pretty dead currently. It’s almost like two sports aren’t even playing right now.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 31, 2020 16:04:56 GMT -5
Sports in the city of Detroit is pretty dead currently. It’s almost like two sports aren’t even playing right now. Welcome to the winter doldrums. Good news is Premier League and Bundesliga are going full force.
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Post by The Hoff on Feb 4, 2020 15:32:05 GMT -5
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Post by Pollux on Feb 4, 2020 17:13:59 GMT -5
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Post by The Hoff on Feb 4, 2020 20:08:04 GMT -5
The more I read, the more I believe he's one step ahead of the NCAA.
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Post by fastfreddie on Feb 5, 2020 10:28:12 GMT -5
The more I read, the more I believe he's one step ahead of the NCAA. Just a couple of things I picked up off of Valenti's show yesterday: 1. MSU probably would have paid him the 4.3 million anyhow, even if he retired in Nov/Dec/Jan. 2. Dantonio is taking an administrative job in the MSU Athletic Department. You don't usually go work for the AD, if you are in trouble with the NCAA
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Post by fastfreddie on Feb 12, 2020 14:07:23 GMT -5
Mel Tucker.
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Post by The Hoff on Feb 12, 2020 15:36:37 GMT -5
Looks like a decent resume. Just read that Nick Saban put MSU on the his trail. Interesting. He worked for Saban at MSU and was with Saban at Bama as an Assistant Head Coach. Hopefully this works out.
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Post by bogeywon on Feb 14, 2020 16:38:44 GMT -5
Mel Tucker. 5.5 million a year for a 5-7 record as a head coach. Lmao good luck with that sparty.
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Post by The Hoff on Feb 15, 2020 20:27:02 GMT -5
Mel Tucker. 5.5 million a year for a 5-7 record as a head coach. Lmao good luck with that sparty. It was his first year at a very down program. Colorado is not a good team. Not surprising. His salary is not top in the BIG. I think I read it 5th or 6th highest.
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Post by fastfreddie on Feb 17, 2020 8:31:40 GMT -5
I don't have any problem with, and totally understand both the amount of the salary and how/when he left Colorado. I think the media is making Tucker out to be a villain.
The only part I do not like (and I think we would all agree), is let the kids transfer. I like the idea of players getting one "free" transfer without penalty.
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Post by The Hoff on Feb 17, 2020 13:15:17 GMT -5
I don't have any problem with, and totally understand both the amount of the salary and how/when he left Colorado. I think the media is making Tucker out to be a villain. The only part I do not like (and I think we would all agree), is let the kids transfer. I like the idea of players getting one "free" transfer without penalty. I agree with the transfer. Stupid that coaches can walk, but the athletes are captive. There should be a window after a coach leaves for students to transfer out without penalty.
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Post by fastfreddie on Feb 19, 2020 8:24:58 GMT -5
I'll be curious to see if there is riff/divide with MSU football, like there was with the Lloyd Carr and Rich Rodriguez peeps at UM.
I think there is something going on, with Dantonio conveniently "out-of-town" during the Mel Tucker introduction, and this MSU D-Lineman threatening to transfer if his old position coach is not retained.
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