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Post by Deuterium Oxide on Jul 4, 2016 16:22:21 GMT -5
Hate this Durant move so much. bitchassness at its finest!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 16:40:36 GMT -5
I don't get why anyone outside of ok or the bay would give a shit about this Durant move.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 16:57:20 GMT -5
Or Cleveland I guess..
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Post by thecouncil on Jul 4, 2016 18:24:35 GMT -5
Because there are only so many teams with real chances to win and this eliminates one of them. I loved that OKC/GS series and really the OKC/Spurs series too. I mean, you don't understand why people care about the third or fourth best player in the world going to a team that won 73 games? That was was a fun team. Plus I think it says something about KD, having three elimination games against the Warriors and then going to join them.
I think unless you're a Warriors fan this is a bummer. Especially people who just enjoy the NBA with a home team that doesn't have a real shot at much beyond a series win.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 19:39:53 GMT -5
Ok I get that. I thought you didn't like his decision outside of your personal preference.
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Post by eruff on Jul 5, 2016 6:40:59 GMT -5
Because there are only so many teams with real chances to win and this eliminates one of them. I loved that OKC/GS series and really the OKC/Spurs series too. I mean, you don't understand why people care about the third or fourth best player in the world going to a team that won 73 games? That was was a fun team. Plus I think it says something about KD, having three elimination games against the Warriors and then going to join them. I think unless you're a Warriors fan this is a bummer. Especially people who just enjoy the NBA with a home team that doesn't have a real shot at much beyond a series win. KD had every right to go to the Warriors. They recruited KD and went all out to get him. KD gave OKC several years to build something and that still havent. Who did OKC get for Harden? They lost KD for nobody and now they have to trade Westbrook for the sake of not losing him for nobody. OKS had three MVP players at one time and being fiscal rather than going all out for a championship cost them 2 MVP type players.
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Post by eruff on Jul 5, 2016 6:43:32 GMT -5
Hate this Durant move so much. bitchassness at its finest!! Stop it! You being a hater, bruh. He was a UN-restricted which gives him the right to join any team he wanted.
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Post by smoothskillzz on Jul 5, 2016 8:20:29 GMT -5
bitchassness at its finest!! Stop it! You being a hater, bruh. He was a UN-restricted which gives him the right to join any team he wanted. da ibaka trade sealed it okc knew he wuz outta there.......dat wuz bitchasssdness
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Post by fastfreddie on Jul 6, 2016 10:17:36 GMT -5
Charles Barkley:
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Post by joeking1978 on Jul 6, 2016 13:28:09 GMT -5
Charles, Stop it! You being a hater, bruh. He was UN-restricted which gives him the right to join any team he wanted.
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Post by eruff on Jul 7, 2016 7:17:22 GMT -5
Barkley is a damn fool. He chased rings also so he should be the last to talk about where a player should go when in free agency. The teams like Sacramento, Indiana, Detroit, Milwaukee, and others arent going to win unless they develop their players.
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Post by thecouncil on Jul 7, 2016 9:24:01 GMT -5
Eruff you know no one is questioning his right to sign wherever he chooses right? You keep saying that like anyone disagrees with it.
And also, Barkely didn't really chase a ring until he was out of his prime. It would have been like Barkley going to the Bulls after the 93 Finals.
And either way, the thing that sucks from an NBA fan perspective as that it takes another potential title tea out of the picture. There's only one in the East and maybe only two in the West now.
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Post by philly on Jul 7, 2016 10:08:56 GMT -5
Pistons just signed a 7'3" circus freak named boban. Has good ear game.
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Post by eruff on Jul 7, 2016 12:09:34 GMT -5
Eruff you know no one is questioning his right to sign wherever he chooses right? You keep saying that like anyone disagrees with it. And also, Barkely didn't really chase a ring until he was out of his prime. It would have been like Barkley going to the Bulls after the 93 Finals. And either way, the thing that sucks from an NBA fan perspective as that it takes another potential title tea out of the picture. There's only one in the East and maybe only two in the West now. Past his prime age wise, but he was still a 20-10 guy which was very good then and now. He ran to Houston after a back to back title run in hopes of winning his first ring.
The NBA has never had parity. Start from the 80's and watch the repeat of teams in the Conf Finals. Before Durant went to GS there were only two teams in the West that had a shot and one in the East as well.
It has always been like this. The only difference is that today's superstar dont want to wait for a front office to get a clue about needs to be done.
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Post by Deuterium Oxide on Jul 11, 2016 7:01:25 GMT -5
bitchassness at its finest!! Stop it! You being a hater, bruh. He was a UN-restricted which gives him the right to join any team he wanted. That isn't hating. He had the right to sign wherever he wanted. I have the right to have an issue with it. He could've signed with anyone. He chose to sign with his rival. Signing with your rival after them putting you out of the playoffs the last two yrs is bitchassness. Its like Zeke joining BOS in 86 or MJ joining the Pistons in 88. Just shows KD isn't about being the man. He is good with just following. Nothing wrong with that but that isn't what he has portrayed himself as for the last 9 yrs. The fact that he was laughing texting and joking with Draymond throughout a series where Draymond was kicking his teammates in the nuts and trying to injure his teammates speaks volumes.
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Post by eruff on Jul 11, 2016 8:03:07 GMT -5
Stop it! You being a hater, bruh. He was a UN-restricted which gives him the right to join any team he wanted. That isn't hating. He had the right to sign wherever he wanted. I have the right to have an issue with it. He could've signed with anyone. He chose to sign with his rival. Signing with your rival after them putting you out of the playoffs the last two yrs is bitchassness. Its like Zeke joining BOS in 86 or MJ joining the Pistons in 88. Just shows KD isn't about being the man. He is good with just following. Nothing wrong with that but that isn't what he has portrayed himself as for the last 9 yrs. The fact that he was laughing texting and joking with Draymond throughout a series where Draymond was kicking his teammates in the nuts and trying to injure his teammates speaks volumes. Different NBA and the players now have more control over there direction than the players of yesterday. It's funny that when something like this come up you guys bring up MJ, Magic, and Isaiah. I bet youre apart of that same group that says LeBron championship in Cleveland means so more than his two in Miami which is bullshit at its highest degree, lmao....
Explain the rival angle please because last I checked there wasnt any rivals in the current era of the NBA or is it you use the rival angle to strengthen your point?
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Post by Deuterium Oxide on Jul 11, 2016 8:37:40 GMT -5
Shouldn't need to explain it but here goes. They have been chippy all season with the stars of the teams trading barbs in the press. They've played tough playoff series in the last two seasons. One team has ended the others season and clowned them while doing so. During those series there were multiple dustups and hard fouls that showed they clearly don't like one another.
Am I talking about the Bulls/Pistons or OKC/GSW? Both fit all criteria.
Bron going to MIA was different in many significant ways. MIA was a middling team that didn't make or barely was making the playoffs. Wade was still good but was seen as starting the downside.
GSW is coming off the greatest reg season in history and has the back to back MVP. Bron was clearly the better player when he went to MIA. KD is not. He may eventually prove to be the driving force of the team but right now anything he does in GS is riding Steph's coattails. He's given up any chance of him being considered one of the greatest.
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Post by thecouncil on Jul 11, 2016 9:01:57 GMT -5
LeBron was different because he had a completely incompetent front office in Cleveland. He took them to a Finals with Mo Williams and Carlos Boozer. Looking back on it LeBron had to get out of there or be would have been stuck in Kevin Garnett land.
OKC's front office had one gigantic, unforgivable mistake with Harden but had proven to be one of the more capable front offices in the league.
By the way, LeBron's championship in Cleveland does mean more historically than the ones in Miami. Just games 5-7 of the Finals and the team they beat make it more important than the Miami wins.
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Post by eruff on Jul 11, 2016 9:03:31 GMT -5
Shouldn't need to explain it but here goes. They have been chippy all season with the stars of the teams trading barbs in the press. They've played tough playoff series in the last two seasons. One team has ended the others season and clowned them while doing so. During those series there were multiple dustups and hard fouls that showed they clearly don't like one another. Am I talking about the Bulls/Pistons or OKC/GSW? Both fit all criteria. Bron going to MIA was different in many significant ways. MIA was a middling team that didn't make or barely was making the playoffs. Wade was still good but was seen as starting the downside. GSW is coming off the greatest reg season in history and has the back to back MVP. Bron was clearly the better player when he went to MIA. KD is not. He may eventually prove to be the driving force of the team but right now anything he does in GS is riding Steph's coattails. He's given up any chance of him being considered one of the greatest. To compare the Bulls/Pistons multiple playoffs series, Jordan having Zeke kicked off the USA team, Rodman hard fall on Pippen, with the many other issues that rivalry presented is a bit of ridiculous. GS/OKC had two seasons of "dustups" while still being friends off the court. Tell me when you heard Rodman and Pippen exchanging phone calls during a series. They hated each other and they didnt need the media to create issues to drive ratings of made up rivalry.
Riding Curry coattails? Curry is one of the main reasons KD. Did you hear about him not having a issue of him being in the Robin role. KD will be the best player on GS and I hope they do win just as I wanted LeBron to win as long as ity wasnt against the Spurs. Hell I want them to become a dynasty just so the haters can keep silent as they have been about LeBron....
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Post by eruff on Jul 11, 2016 9:08:42 GMT -5
LeBron was different because he had a completely incompetent front office in Cleveland. He took them to a Finals with Mo Williams and Carlos Boozer. Looking back on it LeBron had to get out of there or be would have been stuck in Kevin Garnett land. OKC's front office had one gigantic, unforgivable mistake with Harden but had proven to be one of the more capable front offices in the league. Boozer was a double-double machine then in Cleveland. Mo Will wasnt as bad people claim. He just wasnt a name. KD knows the writing is on the wall in OKC. He also knows that he was going to be the lone ranger when Russ came into a bigger contract. I really believe OKC unwilling to spend money is the driving force for him leaving.
After losing Harden what did OKC do to make that team better?
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Post by thecouncil on Jul 11, 2016 9:16:18 GMT -5
LeBron was different because he had a completely incompetent front office in Cleveland. He took them to a Finals with Mo Williams and Carlos Boozer. Looking back on it LeBron had to get out of there or be would have been stuck in Kevin Garnett land. OKC's front office had one gigantic, unforgivable mistake with Harden but had proven to be one of the more capable front offices in the league. Boozer was a double-double machine then in Cleveland. Mo Will wasnt as bad people claim. He just wasnt a name. KD knows the writing is on the wall in OKC. He also knows that he was going to be the lone ranger when Russ came into a bigger contract. I really believe OKC unwilling to spend money is the driving force for him leaving.
After losing Harden what did OKC do to make that team better?
Having a four year span where you draft Russ, KD, Ibaka and Harden is pretty remarkable. Finding guys like Reggie Jackson, Steven Adams and Enes Kanter were all very good moves. And even recently getting what they got from the Magic for Serge seems to be a great deal. The Harden thing was brutal and indefensible but in terms of the big picture that's a good front office. It reminds me of the Shaq/Penny Magic in a lot of ways. And who wasn't bummed that those guys broke up before they put it together? It's just frustrating as someone who likes the NBA when a fun team that was on the brink of being great gets broken up. And it's not like a new contender emerges. It will be interesting to see Russ on his own in a contract year though.
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Post by Deuterium Oxide on Jul 11, 2016 9:17:06 GMT -5
LeBron was different because he had a completely incompetent front office in Cleveland. He took them to a Finals with Mo Williams and Carlos Boozer. Looking back on it LeBron had to get out of there or be would have been stuck in Kevin Garnett land. OKC's front office had one gigantic, unforgivable mistake with Harden but had proven to be one of the more capable front offices in the league. Boozer was a double-double machine then in Cleveland. Mo Will wasnt as bad people claim. He just wasnt a name. KD knows the writing is on the wall in OKC. He also knows that he was going to be the lone ranger when Russ came into a bigger contract. I really believe OKC unwilling to spend money is the driving force for him leaving.
After losing Harden what did OKC do to make that team better?
Boozer played in CLE one yr. And Mo Williams was not good.
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Post by Deuterium Oxide on Jul 11, 2016 9:19:27 GMT -5
Having a four year span where you draft Russ, KD, Ibaka and Harden is pretty remarkable. Finding guys like Reggie Jackson, Steven Adams and Enes Kanter were all very good moves. And even recently getting what they got from the Magic for Serge seems to be a great deal. The Harden thing was brutal and indefensible but in terms of the big picture that's a good front office. It reminds me of the Shaq/Penny Magic in a lot of ways. And who wasn't bummed that those guys broke up before they put it together? It's just frustrating as someone who likes the NBA when a fun team that was on the brink of being great gets broken up. And it's not like a new contender emerges. It will be interesting to see Russ on his own in a contract year though. Yep, they were a few minutes away from beating GSW and he decides to go an join them. Its his right but it aint a great look at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 11:20:14 GMT -5
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Post by thecouncil on Jul 11, 2016 17:11:39 GMT -5
The contrast between Tim Duncan's and Kobe's retirement is pretty perfect.
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