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Post by ChrisBrown on Sept 12, 2017 13:16:26 GMT -5
So this is basically the catch all thread now, huh? Works for me, I suppose. Hooray for sports!
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Post by ChrisBrown on Sept 12, 2017 13:13:12 GMT -5
Does CB still do his podcast? Sorry, I don't come around much anymore. Unfortunately it looks like I'm not alone. I don't do BadHopRadio anymore, but I do a similar podcast just about every week called Tigers SRD. You can check it out here if you're so inclined sportsradiodetroit.com/srd-tigers/Thanks for asking!
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 11, 2017 16:27:47 GMT -5
This calls for some charts! 2011 - This was the hybrid RichRod/Hoke class, so I'll only count guys who committed after Hoke took the job (1/11/2011). A quick explanation...the Rating category is the player's star rating on the 24/7 Composite, and the OFP is my opinion of that player's on-field performance. For my rating system, you get 0 stars if you never played, 1 star if you played but basically did nothing, 2 stars is you were a seldom-used reserve, 3 stars if you were an average starter or a solid reserve, four stars if you were an above-average starter who earned conference acclaim, and 5 stars if you were a good starter who earned national acclaim. Name | POS | Rating | OFP
| Diff | Comment | Antonio Poole
| LB
| 4*
| 0*
| -4
| Never played a down at UM due to injuries.
| Chris Bryant
| OL
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Played in 3 career games. Injury troubles.
| Raymon Taylor
| DB
| 3*
| 3*
| 0
| Solid career. Made 32 starts at corner.
| Chris Barnett
| TE
| 3*
| 0*
| -3
| Never played a down for Michigan.
| Frank Clark
| DL
| 3*
| 4*
| +1
| Developed into a good DE, though never a monster performer.
| Russell Bellomy
| QB
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Played in six games. Was terrible in his only important game action.
| Thomas Rawls
| RB
| 3*
| 2*
| -1
| Ran for 330 yards and 5 TDs on 73 carries over three years.
| Tamani Carter
| DB
| 3*
| 0*
| -3
| Never played a down.
| Keith Heitzman
| DE/TE
| 3*
| 2*
| -1
| Tenuous 2*. Played in 36 games, made 15 tackles, caught 1 TD.
| Matt Wile
| K
| 2*
| 3*
| +1
| Four-year player, made 20-of-29 FGs, average 40 yards a punt.
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Total: -14 or -1.4 per player
A fantastic class would probably end up with a number around 0, so -14 isn't necessarily a horribly low number, but that -1.4 per kid says it was a real bad class. 2012 - Hoke's first real class. Name | POS | Rating | OFP | Diff | Comments | Kyle Kalis
| OL | 4* | 3* | -1
| Made 42 starts, did receive some awards, but was never very good.
| Ondre Pipkins
| DL
| 4*
| 2*
| -2
| Played in 23 games. Injuries limited impact. Broomed by Harbs.
| Joe Bolden
| LB
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Started 28 games. Solid player, but never quite seemed to figure it out.
| Erik Magnuson
| OL
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| Started 36 games. Quality player who made B1G first team as a senior.
| James Ross
| LB
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Made 21 starts. Contributor, but never quite panned out.
| Chris Wormley
| DL
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| Made 29 starts. Terrific player as an upperclassman.
| Terry Richardson
| DB
| 4*
| 1*
| -3
| Played in 15 games, but did next to nothing.
| Royce Jenkins-Stone
| LB
| 4*
| 2*
| -2
| Made 8 starts at LB/DE. Never lived up to hype.
| Tom Strobel
| DL
| 4*
| 2*
| -2
| Appeared in 18 games. Recorded 6 tackles.
| Dennis Norfleet
| ATH
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Made 21 catches as a receiver, was a solid return man.
| Amara Darboh
| WR
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| Started 28 games, All B1G second team. Made 151 catches, 14 TDs.
| Jarrod Wilson
| DB
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Started 30 games. Very solid player, 169 tackles and 4 INTs.
| Mario Ojemudia
| DL
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Solid contributor...82 tackles, 8 sacks. Injury spoiled a productive senior year.
| Devin Funchess
| TE/WR
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| Difference maker when engaged...126 catches and 15 TDs in three seasons.
| AJ Williams
| TE
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Made 13 starts...sucked until he was solid as a senior.
| Matt Godin
| DL
| 3*
| 3*
| 0
| Solid contributor...40 games and 15 starts, about 50 tackles.
| Ben Braden
| OL
| 3*
| 3*
| 0
| Made 34 starts along the o-line. Contributor, but average.
| Kaleb Ringer
| LB
| 3*
| 0*
| -3
| Injured and never played a down.
| Jeremy Clark
| DB
| 3*
| 3*
| 0
| Was a solid contributor. Career may not be over.
| Jehu Chesson
| WR
| 3*
| 4*
| +1
| Spent just half a season as an impact player, but 112 catches and 16 total TDs.
| Blake Bars
| OL
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Appeared in 8 games.
| Sione Houma
| RB
| 3*
| 3*
| 0
| Good senior season as a FB, no stats other years...but he was a fullback. Solid.
| Allen Gant
| ATH
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Appeared in 18 games and made 7 tackles.
| Drake Johnson
| RB
| 3*
| 2*
| -1
| Has 641 yards and 8 TDs on 116 career carries. May be coming back.
| Willie Henry
| DT
| 3*
| 4*
| +1
| Played in 35 games, picking up 86 tackles, 10 sacks, and 18.5 TFLs.
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Total: -22 or -0.88 per player Got some very solid 4-year contributors from this class, but they missed on their top guys and also had a lot of underwhelming 4-stars. 2013 - Hoke's highest ranked class Name
| POS | Rating | OFP | Diff | Comments | Derrick Green
| RB | 5*
| 2* | -3 | Never panned out. Compiled 898 yards and 7 TDs on 212 carries before transferring.
| Patrick Kugler
| OL
| 4*
| 1*
| -3
| So far only 9 appearances and one start. Passed by many other lineman. May come back next year.
| Dymonte Thomas
| DB
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Solid player saw action in 47 games. Never much of an impact. Should've redshirted.
| Shane Morris
| QB
| 4*
| 1*
| -3
| Completed 47 passes in 4 years with 5 INTs and 0 TDs. Got Dave Brandon fired.
| Kyle Bosch
| OL
| 4*
| 1*
| -3
| Played as a Frosh and maybe as a Soph. Kicked off the team by Harbs.
| David Dawson
| OL
| 4*
| 1*
| -3
| Career backup appeared in 23 games. Grad transfer.
| Chris Fox
| OL
| 4*
| 0*
| -4
| Appeared in one game. Retired due to injury.
| Jourdan Lewis
| DB
| 4*
| 5*
| +1
| One of the best defensive backs in college football the last two years. All American.
| Henry Poggi
| ATH
| 4*
| 2*
| -2
| Played in 31 games, but not much impact, even for a fullback. Probably back next year.
| Mike McCray
| LB
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| Very solid this year. Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he'll be all-conference next year.
| Taco Charlton
| DL
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| Would probably be a 4.5* if I did that. Had 55 tackles and 18.5 sacks in 46 games
| Logan-Tuley Tillman
| OL
| 4*
| 0*
| -4
| Appeared in one game. May have panned out, but did a very bad thing.
| Jake Butt
| TE
| 4*
| 5*
| +1
| One of the best tight ends in college football. All American. 138 catches and 11 TDs in career.
| DeVeon Smith
| RB
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Solid multi-year starter, but never really more than average. 2,235 yards and 22 TDs in career.
| Ben Gedeon
| LB
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| Really good as a senior. Should've redshirted. 176 tackles in 50 games
| Mo Hurst
| DL
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| Impact rotation player on D-Line. Could have huge senior year. 19 TFLs in 33 career games.
| Wyatt Shallman
| ATH
| 4*
| 1*
| -3
| Has been in 11 games and gotten 4 carries. I assume he's gone?
| Delano Hill
| DB
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| He's been a solid starter at safety the last 2 years.
| Jaron Dukes
| WR
| 3*
| 0*
| -3
| Got into one game in his career.
| Ross Douglas
| ATH
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Got into 18 games. Switched positions multiple times.
| Dan Samuelson
| OL
| 3*
| 0*
| -3
| Never played a down.
| Csont'e York
| WR
| 3*
| 0*
| -3
| Appeared in one game, kicked off team.
| Channing Stribling
| CB
| 3*
| 4*
| +1
| Developed into a damn fine starting CB by his senior year.
| Khalid Hill
| ATH
| 3*
| 3*
| 0
| Became an impact FB this year, scoring 13 times.
| Da'Mario Jones
| WR
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Got into 22 games, made 2 catches.
| Reon Dawson
| DB
| 3*
| 0*
| -3
| Never played a down.
| Scott Sypniewski
| LS
| 2*
| 2*
| 0
| Is a long snapper.
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Total: -43 or -1.6 per player What a fucking disaster. They got a couple huge players in Lewis and Butt, and real strong contributions from Charlton and others, but good lord. Their 5-star RB was a bust, their big-time QB was a bust, and they've gotten absolutely nothing from a 6-man offensive line class and a 3-man wide receiver class. 2014 - Beginning of the End Name | POS | Rating | OFP | Diff | Comment | Jabrill Peppers
| ATH
| 5* | 5* | 0
| Maybe not the second coming of Woodson, but an All American and Heisman finalist.
| Drake Harris
| WR
| 4*
| 1*
| -3
| Has 8 catches in 2 years. Needs to break out next year, or he's a full bust.
| Bryan Mone
| DL
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Has been key rotation member on DL. Think he'll earn that 4th star next year.
| Mason Cole
| OL
| 4*
| 4*
| 0
| Three-year starter. Borderline all-conference type.
| Michael Ferns
| LB
| 4*
| 0*
| -4
| Never played a down and transferred to WVU.
| Lawrence Marshall
| DE
| 4*
| 1*
| -3
| Has played in just 7 games and has only 5 tackles.
| Chase Winovich
| LB
| 4*
| 3*
| -1
| Had 35 tackles and 5 sacks last year. Looks like a potentially solid pass rusher.
| Freddy Canteen
| WR
| 4*
| 1*
| -3
| Made six catches for Michigan, left the team.
| Ian Bunting
| TE
| 4*
| 2*
| -2
| Ten catches in 2 years. Wouldn't shock me if he breaks out next year.
| Juwann Bushell-Beatty
| OL
| 3*
| 2*
| -1
| Has one start and 11 appearances. Could see him earning a starting job next year.
| Wilton Speight
| QB
| 3*
| 4*
| +1
| Threw for 2,500 yards and 18 TDs this year. Led team to 10 wins.
| Maurice Ways
| WR
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Just five catches in two years. Has a chance to step up in 2017.
| Noah Furbush
| LB
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Mostly a special teamer so far.
| Brandon Watson
| DB
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Special teamer, cracked the two-deep in dime packages.
| Jared Wangler
| DB
| 3*
| 1*
| -2
| Has three tackles in two years.
| Brady Pallante
| DL
| 3*
| 0*
| -3
| Never played.
| Blake O'Neill
| P
| 0*
| 2*
| +2
| Was pretty damn good, aside from that one play.
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Total: -26 or -1.52 per player Not great, although there appears to be some room for growth in the next year or two. Not gonna bother with the 2015 hybrid Hoke/Harbs class because it's just too early.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 10, 2017 10:01:48 GMT -5
Hey guys. What have I missed in the last year or so?
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Post by ChrisBrown on Oct 25, 2016 14:07:54 GMT -5
Yeah, Miller always had the fastball and that monster slider, but he could never find the plate as a starter, and all three of his pitches played down. I often think about what would have happened in 2014 when the Tigers basically had a deal in place with the Red Sox to get Miller back, but Baltimore came in at the last minute with a better offer.
The Tigers were down 4-3 in the 8th against the Orioles in Game One of the ALDS, with Miller getting 5 outs in the 6th and 7th for Baltimore, before Joba, Soria, and Coke gave up EIGHT runs. And then of course in Game Two they were up 6-3 in the 8th inning when Joba and Soria gave up FOUR runs. Then Miller got another 5 outs in the 7th and 8th in Game Three, and that was all she wrote. Series probably would have looked completely different.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Oct 25, 2016 8:05:07 GMT -5
Yeah, when I heard that they were trying to trade Justin Upton like two months after they signed him, it seemed pretty clear that Mike Ilitch was no longer running things. Add that to the fact they didn't add anyone at the trade deadline, and they are now looking at shedding tons of payroll, and you have to figure the kids are in charge now, and they are probably looking to get leaner so they can sell the team. Just need to hope they sell to another super fan and not some random business group.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Sept 26, 2016 12:37:15 GMT -5
Don't believe there has ever be a posthumous winner of one of the major awards. Tragedy for the game of baseball.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Aug 25, 2016 15:22:15 GMT -5
Good start to this final stretch. Need to go 21-14 in these last 35 to have a chance at the playoffs. Helps to play the Twins 7 more times.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jun 21, 2016 15:36:21 GMT -5
I have no idea how that isn't the longest HR in Comerica history. I've only see a handful of homers hit that brick wall, and I've never seen one clear it. That was an absolute bomb.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jun 9, 2016 21:49:43 GMT -5
Alex Kirilloff PA - OF - L - 18 - 10-25 - Big power, RF profile. Is my wife's cousin. Gotta siren you there Chris. Ha, I'm just happy you read through all of that. What's the issue here? I think being my wife's cousin makes him a good prospect (he DID go 15th to the Twins).
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jun 8, 2016 23:47:51 GMT -5
So, this is a bit of a strange draft from a talent perspective. Most analysts consider "good" drafts to be heavy on college pitchers and players and up-the-middle players (shortstops, catchers, center fielders). This draft doesn't really have that, but there are about a dozen very solid prospects who have separated themselves from the pack. The real strength of this draft is depth, however, because most think the talent level from player 15 to player 75 is roughly equal, so teams picking a little later might get some very nice steals. Here's how it breaks down: College PitchersName | School | T
| Age | Range | Notes | A.J. Puk
| Florida
| L
| 21
| 1-4
| Huge (6'7) with mid-90s FB and wipeout slider. Bad body, back issues, never really dominant.
| Dakota Hudson
| Miss St.
| R
| 21
| 6-20
| Ideal frame (6'5, 200) FB 91-95, low-90s cutter. Only one year as starter.
| T.J. Zeuch
| Pitt
| R
| 20
| 10-40
| Another big kid (6'7) with a 92-94 mph FB. Inconsistent breaking balls, iffy changeup.
| Zack Burdi
| Louisville
| R
| 21
| 10-40
| Huge arm can sit 96-98 and has hit 101. Good slider. College reliever, might be able to start.
| Justin Dunn
| BCU
| R
| 20
| 10-40
| Reliever until this year. Four solid pitches, FB can hit high 90s. Needs to add weight.
| Jordan Sheffield
| Vandy
| R
| 21
| 18-40
| Huge arm with mid-90s FB, + slider, and Above average change. Only 6-feet tall.
| Connor Jones
| Virginia
| R
| 21
| 30-60
| Solid four-pitch mix, great track record in college. K-rates alarmingly low.
| Eric Lauer
| Kent St.
| L
| 21
| 30-60
| Four-pitch lefty can hit 94 with above-average command. Lacks putaway pitch.
| Logan Shore
| Florida
| R
| 21
| 30-60
| Huge success in college. Ab Avg FB, + changeup, iffy slider. Terrific control.
| Robert Tyler
| Georgia
| R
| 20
| 30-60
| Big fastball can hit 100 as starter. Iffy secondary stuff and command, injury issues.
| Anthony Kay
| UConn
| L
| 21
| 30-60
| Command and control lefty with solid FB and good changeup. Undersized.
| Alec Hansen
| Oklahoma
| R
| 21
| 30-60
| Enigma. Elite, first overall pick stuff. Horrible season, bad control, injury issues.
| Cal Quantrill
| Stanford
| R
| 20
| 20-60
| Four ab-avg pitches. Barely pitching in last 2 years with TJ. May have a deal with a team.
| Cody Sedlock
| Illinois
| R
| 20
| 25-60
| Sinker-slider guy who moved into rotation this year and pitched well.
| Jon Duplantier
| Rice
| R
| 21
| 30-70
| Big arm, CB flashes plus, solid change. Shoulder issues, Rice pitchers always die.
| Corbin Burnes
| St. Mary's
| R
| 21
| 30-70
| Plus fastball, solid secondaries. Small school, some concerns he might be a reliever.
| Dane Dunning
| Florida
| R
| 21
| 30-70
| Good fastball and change, iffy breaking ball. College reliever because UF is too good.
| Daulton Jeffries
| Cal
| R
| 20
| 30-70
| Plus fastball, solid secondaries. Smaller guy, and had shoulder trouble this year.
| Braden Webb
| S. Carolina
| R
| 21
| 40-80
| Plus fastball, plus curve. Already had TJ surgery, probably a reliever.
| A.J. Puckett
| Pepperdine
| R
| 21
| 40-80
| Ab-avg FB and change, fringy breaking ball. Is not A.J. Puk.
| Ben Bowden
| Vanderbilt
| L
| 21
| 40-80
| Plus FB, solid change and slider. Starter stuff, but failed as college starter.
| Mike Shawaryn
| Maryland
| R
| 21
| 50-100
| Solid stuff, durable body, almost side-arm delivery. Struggled this year.
| Keegan Akin
| W. Michigan
| L
| 21
| 50-120
| Plus fastball, solid secondaries. Small school, a bit undersized.
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High School PitchersName
| From | T | Age | Range | Notes | Riley Pint
| KS
| R | 18
| 2-10 | FB up to 102, 2 + secondaries. Very athletic. Effort in delivery, iffy control.
| Jason Groome
| NJ
| L
| 17
| 2-10
| Mid-90s, ++curve solid change. Easy delivery. Some makeup concerns.
| Braxton Garrett
| AL
| L
| 18
| 6-15
| Polished with some projection left. Ab-avg FB, + curve, solid change.
| Matt Manning
| CA
| R
| 18
| 6-20
| Big kid (6'6) with md-90s heat, potential plus curve. Dad played in NBA.
| Ian Anderson
| NY
| R
| 18
| 6-20
| Plus fastball, ab-avg slider, frame (6'3, 170) to add more.
| Forrest Whitley
| TX
| R
| 18
| 8-20
| Big boy (6'7, 225) with FB up to 97, plus curve, solid change.
| Joey Wentz
| KS
| L
| 18
| 10-40
| Plus FB, ab-avg secondaries. Plus power as a hitter.
| Kyle Muller
| TX
| L
| 18
| 20-40
| Plus FB at 90-95, ab-avg curve, solid change.
| Jared Horn
| CA
| R
| 17
| 25-50
| FB up to 96, slider flashes plus. Avg change.
| Kevin Gowdy
| CA
| R
| 18
| 25-50
| Low-90s FB. Ab-avg secondaries. Room to grow, UCLA commit.
| Cole Ragans
| FL
| L
| 18
| 30-60
| Three ab-avg pitches, good feel for craft.
| Alex Speas
| GA
| R
| 18
| 30-60
| Big-time fastball, plus curve. Iffy control, fringy changeup. |
College BatsName | From | POS
| Bat
| Age | Range | Notes | Kyle Lewis
| Mercer
| OF
| R
| 20 | 2-8
| Athletic with good spd and big pwr. Small school, K issues.
| Corey Ray
| Louisville
| OF
| L
| 21
| 2-10
| Five-tool kid. Some issues with LHP.
| Nick Senzel
| Tennessee
| 3B
| R
| 20
| 2-10
| Polished bat, great track record. Questions about power.
| Zack Collins
| Miami (FL)
| C
| L
| 21
| 6-20
| Very good bat with pwr. Absurd numbers. Might not catch.
| Bryan Reynolds
| Vanderbilt
| OF
| B
| 21
| 15-30
| Solid across the board, arm a little light.
| Buddy Reed
| Florida
| OF
| B
| 21
| 20-40
| Monster athlete with ++ speed. Raw, might not hit.
| Will Craig
| Wake Forest
| 3B
| R
| 21
| 20-40
| Good bat, good power, plus arm. Bad body. Probably a 1B.
| Matt Thaiss
| Virginia
| C
| L
| 21
| 20-40
| Good bat, good pop, great patience. Might not catch.
| Chris Okey
| Clemson
| C
| R
| 21
| 25-50
| Average across the board. Will stick at catcher.
| Sheldon Neuse
| Oklahoma
| SS
| R
| 21
| 30-60
| Avg. hit, pwr, spd. Plus arm...probably moves to 3B.
| Anfernee Grier
| Auburn
| OF
| R
| 20
| 30-60
| Plus spd, def. Athletic...may struggle to hit.
| Heath Quin
| Samford
| OF
| R
| 21
| 30-60
| RF profile with ab-avg power and arm.
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High School BatsName | From | POS | Bat
| Age | Range | Notes | Mickey Moniak
| CA
| OF
| L
| 18
| 1-5
| Plus hit, plus spd, plus CF D. Developing power.
| Blake Rutherford
| CA
| OF
| L
| 19
| 1-14
| Five avg or better tools. RF profile. "Old" for a HS kid.
| Delvin Perez
| PR
| SS
| R
| 17
| 4-40
| Plus spd, def, arm. Question about bat, popped for PEDs.
| Josh Lowe
| GA
| 3B
| L
| 18
| 4-20
| Five-tools. Plus raw power, also a very legit pitcher.
| Alex Kirilloff
| PA
| OF
| L
| 18
| 10-25
| Big power, RF profile. Is my wife's cousin.
| Nolan Jones
| PA
| SS
| L
| 18
| 10-30
| Good hit and power tools. Likely to move to 3B or 2B.
| Taylor Trammell
| GA
| OF
| L
| 18
| 10-30
| ++run, + def, very athletic. Some questions on the bat.
| Gavin Lux
| WI
| SS
| L
| 18
| 10-30
| Avg bat and pwr, legit SS with ab-avg D and arm.
| Drew Mendoza
| FL
| 3B
| L
| 18
| 15-40
| Athletic with plus arm, solid hit. Energy concerns.
| Will Benson
| GA
| OF
| L
| 17
| 20-60
| Big kid (6'6, 220) with RF profile. Jason Heyward comps.
| Joe Rizzo
| VA
| 3B
| L
| 18
| 30-75
| Outstanding bat, only 5'9, might not stick at 3rd.
| Carter Kieboom
| GA
| 3B
| L
| 18
| 30-75
| Good bat, solid power, should stick at 3B. Can switch pitch. |
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jun 6, 2016 19:59:58 GMT -5
Sounds overly complicated. It absolutely is. It was an overreaction to the pre-2012 method in which teams could spend as much as they wanted on players, even though MLB strongly suggested they not. That's how the Tigers ended up with a guy like Porcello, who was considered a Top-10 talent, with the 27th pick.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jun 6, 2016 16:02:17 GMT -5
I've posted about 12 times this year, but that's not gonna keep me from creating this thread, even though I'm probably the only person here who cares about the MLB Draft. The first 77 picks take place this Thursday, with rounds 3-10 on Friday, and rounds 11-40 on Saturday.
So, just a quick refresher on the way the MLB draft works, because it is significantly more complex than the NFL and NBA drafts. -You can't trade picks (in the majority of circumstances), and you can't trade drafted players until this year's World Series is over. MLB is trying to drum up more interest for the draft, so I'd bet they'll allow teams to trade any draft picks soon, which could get very interesting.
-Every pick in the first ten rounds of the draft is assigned a specific "slot" value, from the first overall pick at $9.015 million, to the final pick of the 10th round at $156,600.
-A team's overall bonus pool is the sum total of the dollar value of all their picks in the first ten rounds. Players taken after round ten can receive up to $100,000 without their bonus counting against the total bonus pool, but any dollar amount over $100K counts against a team's pool. If a team fails to sign any of the players they take in the first ten rounds, the value of the pick is subtracted from the team's overall bonus pool.
-Teams are free to allot their bonus pool money in any way they see fit. For example, there is no way in hell Philly is going to spend the full $9 million slot value for the first overall pick on one player. I'd be shocked if they go over $6 million. So they will then have that extra $3 million to spread around to other players.
-If a team goes more than 5% over their bonus pool they start to lose draft picks in future drafts. No team has ever done this, though the Astros almost had it happen to them accidentally a few years ago when they couldn't sign the first overall pick Brady Aiken.
-And finally, teams are not supposed to negotiate with players before the draft, but it happens all the time. We can use the Phillies as an example again. They have that $9 million available for the first pick. They might think eight players in the draft are all about equal, so they might (secretly) approach all of them and ask if they'll accept a $4.5 bonus. The top few players might reject that offer because they can get more than that if they are taken 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. But the slot value for the 5th pick is just $4.3 million, so if a player thinks he might slide to 5 or lower, then he'd be smart to take the offer. If he does, then the Phillies have another $4.5 million to give out, and can possibly land another top-10 talent, even though they don't select again until pick 42.
The Tigers pick 9th overall, which carries a slot value of $3,505,800, but they have one of the lowest total bonus pools in the entire draft ($5,424,300) because they lost their 2nd round pick for signing Jordan Zimmermann, and their 3rd round pick for signing Justin Upton. So I wouldn't expect and shenanigans with their draft this year.
That enough reading for you guys? In the next post I'll put out a bunch of names to know.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jun 6, 2016 15:25:13 GMT -5
As long as KC keeps dicking around, they are right in this. I had KC winning the division with Cleveland finishing second, but I'm starting to believe the Indians are really the team to worry about. They just swept four from KC, they're 6-0 against the Tigers, they have a top-10 offense and a top-12 pitching staff right now, and they've mostly done that without Michael Brantley and Carlos Carrasco. Salazar is pitching at a near-Ace level, Francisco Lindor is a legit MVP-level star, and Jose Ramirez has been outstanding.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jun 6, 2016 15:18:41 GMT -5
I love fulmer. CB can he keep this up and be a high end number 3 starter? Absolutely, though I'd argue that if he keeps pitching like this he's a #2 or possibly even an Ace. Hard to imagine he'll continue to dominate like he has, particularly when teams start to recognize his tendencies, but his stuff is absolutely legit. All the scouting reports had his changeup as a fringe-average pitch, but that thing was a motherfucker when he started using it more a few starts ago. He also has a pretty solid curve that he hasn't broken out in the big leagues yet, so we may see him use that in the future if hitters adjust to him or he can't find his other secondary stuff in any given start. Big test tonight against a powerful Blue Jays team.
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Post by ChrisBrown on May 31, 2016 14:19:14 GMT -5
so, i'm just going by the box score, but... ausmus leaves an old-ass verlander in after 100 pitches, fails again. i wonder how many more times he'll watch that same sequence play out. Really not like that at all. Verlander was superb through 7 innings, and still under 100 pitches. The offense had done nothing against Chacin, who was also spectacular, so Ausmus trotted JV back out there, as he should have. Verlander had been going with high fastballs for most of the night, but he caught a bit too much of the plate to the first three batters of the inning, and that led to a run. The only real bummer was the run-scoring single by Cliff Pennington, because it was an 0-2 pitch that was up and over the plate, though it wasn't a brutal miss or anything. Ausmus then pulled the infield in. Batter hit a shot to shortstop, and Romine made a fine diving stop, but his throw home was late, so it was 2-0...then McCann made the brilliant choice to try to still throw the runner out at first and missed Cabrera by about 15 feet...3-0. Buck Farmer comes in and gives up two more runs, because that's what this bullpen does. Verlander was really, really good again, as he has been for most of the month. His new cutter is absolutely nasty, and he's back to being a legitimate frontline starter - 3rd in the AL in IP, 2nd in strikeouts. His ERA is still a bit high from April, but he's given up just 8 runs in 37.2 innings over his last 5 starts.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Apr 21, 2016 8:45:33 GMT -5
I hate gibby on the announce team You're not alone there, though I actually really like his analysis. He'll talk about run expectancy and things like that, and the other day he was breaking down the intricacies of holding runners and switching up your delivery times. You're just not gonna get stuff like that from Rod. I totally understand people who don't like him though...for whatever reason he speaks with the force and urgency of a yoga instructor.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Apr 20, 2016 11:39:07 GMT -5
Upton on pace for 297 strikeouts and 22 walks. At what point does this become concerning? He's always been a slow starter, and he's pretty notorious for being an extreme hot/cold hitter. I wouldn't be concerned unless he's still striking out 40% of the time once we reach June. I expect him to randomly catch fire in the next two weeks or so, going like 19-for-30 with 4 homers, and then immediately go like 1-for-17 with 12 Ks.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Mar 24, 2016 11:41:58 GMT -5
I mean, sure, that's part of it. I have tens of listeners now. Mostly it's just a lack of time. Between my day job, writing for Scout, preparing for a radio show each week, and dealing with an insane 2-year-old, not a whole lot of time left over for the lot of you. Want to get the prospect stuff in here soon, and also want to do some 2017 college football recruiting stuff. Just a matter of finding the time.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Mar 23, 2016 14:27:39 GMT -5
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Post by ChrisBrown on Feb 23, 2016 17:23:45 GMT -5
I think they have a shot at finishing second in the division. Hopefully they can get a wildcard spot. Sounds reasonable to me. It's funny to look at the projections and publication predictions: PECOTA has the Indians winning 92, the White Sox at 82, the Twins at 79, the Tigers at 78, and the Royals at 76. Fangraphs has Cleveland at 85, the Tigers and White Sox at 81, the Royals at 79, and the Twins at 78. VegasInsider has the Royals at 87, the Tigers at 85, the Tribe at 84, the white Sox at 80.5, and the Twins at 77.5. Meanwhile USA Today went bonkers and had the ChiSox with 90 wins, the Royals at 84, Indians at 83, Tigers 82, and Twins 80. Should be a very competitive division this year.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Feb 22, 2016 10:20:40 GMT -5
Seems time for a new thread. Let's hope 2016 is a lot more pleasant than 2015.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Feb 4, 2016 11:08:47 GMT -5
One thing this whole process confirmed is that Harbaugh hates recruiting. It's crazy to me that he's the first one to do a lot of this stuff, because recruiting has been bonkers for years now, but there he is with the summer swarm tour, the signing of the stars event, and now they're having spring practice in effing Florida at the IMG Academy. So it's like a Florida vacation on spring break for the players...and oh, they get to be on the campus of the most talented high-school athletes in the country. Next year's IMG class has like a dozen 4-star players, including #1 overall Dylan Moses. It's brilliant. The NCAA is going to have to change all sorts of rules because of Harbaugh.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 20, 2016 10:38:53 GMT -5
Agree CB, Upton could have 2 great years & opt-out. Then this contract would look even better. My only problem with this signing, can the Tigers sign JD to a long-term deal? Because if they can't then this becomes next year a swap deal for outfielders. The Tigers better win this season or next because their ageing stars are not going to get better. Yes council Tiger fans will miss Mr. I when he is gone. My reaction article went up yesterday, if you care to read it. I conclude that this probably does keep them from signing J.D. to a long-term deal, which is kind of a bummer. But I think we have to be realistic that the current window for this team to win is the next two years. Obviously a ton of things can change in that time (they could have another shitty season and trade off players for prospects, for instance), but I'm kind of okay with them just blowing it up after that. We'll have been through a relatively unbroken 12-year stretch of competitive baseball, Ilitch may no longer be alive, and they'll have Martinez, likely Upton, and potentially Kinsler and Sanchez all coming off the books for 2018. They need to negotiate a new CBA for 2017 and beyond, but I assume they'll keep some form of the current qualifying offer system, which means the Tigers will probably gain at least two first round picks in the 2018 draft, and possibly four. It'll be dark for the next few years, but they should be set up to compete again in 2021 or 2022. Oh, and it's still possible they could sign JD to a healthy extension, but it would probably have to be a heavily backloaded deal, and I'm not sure if they want to give themselves a potential fifth player making $20+ million in 2018 and beyond.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 19, 2016 14:30:45 GMT -5
I wrote a story about this, but it's not up yet, so whatever. I think it's a really solid deal for both sides. Upton and Cespedes are pretty similar players, except Upton is two years younger and he walks more. Cespedes is a better defender, but whatever. Wouldn't be shocked at all if Upton has a career year in 2016 or, more likely, 2017.
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