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Post by mtdman on Jan 13, 2015 1:39:13 GMT -5
I really don't understand the whole running thing. I don't relate to the mindset at all. I dig my bike rides, and lifting, but I don't think it's the same mindset or psychology as running.
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Post by philly on Jan 13, 2015 8:27:49 GMT -5
Unless you push the pace over 18 mph, I don't find cycling to be much of a workout. Even at that pace, I feel like I have to ride for two hours to get the same workout as a 45 minute run. I don't have that kind of time on a daily basis.
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Post by mtdman on Jan 13, 2015 9:47:19 GMT -5
There is nothing enjoyable to me about running. It's boring and slow. On a bike I can move fast and go places and it is fun. Running seems like torture to me, not fun.
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Post by caper on Jan 13, 2015 20:12:16 GMT -5
started focus t25 last monday, have lost 4.5 lbs in 8 days....
( have not had any beer in that time either)
hoping to lose a total of 12 - 15 lbs in the 10 weeks of the program
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Post by philly on Jan 14, 2015 10:12:40 GMT -5
There is nothing enjoyable to me about running. It's boring and slow. On a bike I can move fast and go places and it is fun. Running seems like torture to me, not fun. Think of it in terms of hot dogs. You can burn off 3 hot dogs per hour running, but only half a hot dog per hour biking. Think of all the enjoyment you would get out of eating more hot dogs.
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Post by jrolla on Jan 14, 2015 11:31:49 GMT -5
There is nothing enjoyable to me about running. It's boring and slow. On a bike I can move fast and go places and it is fun. Running seems like torture to me, not fun. Think of it in terms of hot dogs. You can burn off 3 hot dogs per hour running, but only half a hot dog per hour biking. Think of all the enjoyment you would get out of eating more hot dogs. It's really all based on heart rate not activity. That applies to any exercise. I don't think one is necessarily better than the other.
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Post by philly on Jan 14, 2015 11:43:50 GMT -5
Agree. I have a hard time getting my heart rate up unless I'm cycling up hill, so it just takes longer. I like both and do both. Most give up on running because it takes a long time to get in shape to be able to run distance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 11:54:39 GMT -5
Agree. I have a hard time getting my heart rate up unless I'm cycling up hill, so it just takes longer. I like both and do both. Most give up on running because it takes a long time to get in shape to be able to run distance. Ever tried a hot dog eating contest? That will get the rate up.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 14, 2015 12:27:44 GMT -5
There is nothing enjoyable to me about running. It's boring and slow. On a bike I can move fast and go places and it is fun. Running seems like torture to me, not fun. Think of it in terms of hot dogs. You can burn off 3 hot dogs per hour running, but only half a hot dog per hour biking. Think of all the enjoyment you would get out of eating more hot dogs. It all evens out in the long run based on the exercise time lost from running rehabbing from knee replacement.
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Post by aaugusti on Jan 14, 2015 12:49:38 GMT -5
I work with a guy who is a competitive body builder (not diddy), and he was telling me the best thing to do to lose weight is to go on the treadmill for 45 minutes and do intervals of 2 minutes walking 3.5 MPH at an incline of 10, then 1 minute of running 6 MPH at no incline. It is most effective because it keeps your heart rate from getting to a high point and just staying there. The problem is that you are always screwing with the controls.
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Post by philly on Jan 14, 2015 12:52:12 GMT -5
Think of it in terms of hot dogs. You can burn off 3 hot dogs per hour running, but only half a hot dog per hour biking. Think of all the enjoyment you would get out of eating more hot dogs. It all evens out in the long run based on the exercise time lost from running rehabbing from knee replacement. Nope www.foxnews.com/health/2014/12/04/is-running-actually-bad-for-your-knees/The most common running injuries hit the knees. But running isn't to blame. "Running gets a bad rap, but running can strengthen the knee, and those who run throughout their lives have stronger knees than those who don't," according to physical therapist Michael Silverman, P.T., M.S.P.T., coordinator of the Tisch Performance Center at the Hospital for Special Surgery.
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Post by mtdman on Jan 14, 2015 14:25:20 GMT -5
I work with a guy who is a competitive body builder (not diddy), and he was telling me the best thing to do to lose weight is to go on the treadmill for 45 minutes and do intervals of 2 minutes walking 3.5 MPH at an incline of 10, then 1 minute of running 6 MPH at no incline. It is most effective because it keeps your heart rate from getting to a high point and just staying there. The problem is that you are always screwing with the controls. That's called high intensity interval training, or HIIT. And there's a lot of research to show that it is valid, and better than steady state cardio. I used to run in college. It seemed more of a metal state thing, at least in my opinion. I'm just not into the whole running miles and miles thing in order to get a work out in. Seems slow to me. In an hour I can ride 12 to 15 miles and go somewhere, whereas running is slow and painful and you don't cover as much ground. I just like moving fast on my bike, without all the constant pain from running down the road. It's just not something I want to do.
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Post by polarbearnick on Jan 14, 2015 14:44:20 GMT -5
I work with a guy who is a competitive body builder (not diddy), and he was telling me the best thing to do to lose weight is to go on the treadmill for 45 minutes and do intervals of 2 minutes walking 3.5 MPH at an incline of 10, then 1 minute of running 6 MPH at no incline. It is most effective because it keeps your heart rate from getting to a high point and just staying there. The problem is that you are always screwing with the controls. That's called high intensity interval training, or HIIT. And there's a lot of research to show that it is valid, and better than steady state cardio. I used to run in college. It seemed more of a metal state thing, at least in my opinion. I'm just not into the whole running miles and miles thing in order to get a work out in. Seems slow to me. In an hour I can ride 12 to 15 miles and go somewhere, whereas running is slow and painful and you don't cover as much ground. I just like moving fast on my bike, without all the constant pain from running down the road. It's just not something I want to do.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 14, 2015 21:56:27 GMT -5
It all evens out in the long run based on the exercise time lost from running rehabbing from knee replacement. Nope www.foxnews.com/health/2014/12/04/is-running-actually-bad-for-your-knees/The most common running injuries hit the knees. But running isn't to blame. "Running gets a bad rap, but running can strengthen the knee, and those who run throughout their lives have stronger knees than those who don't," according to physical therapist Michael Silverman, P.T., M.S.P.T., coordinator of the Tisch Performance Center at the Hospital for Special Surgery. My orthopedic says otherwise, and since he's seen the inside of my knees, I'll trust his judgment. But I also have very tight hamstrings, which is a compounding factor for both the knees and low back.
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Post by joeking1978 on Jan 14, 2015 22:26:27 GMT -5
Treadmill gets delivered tomorrow.
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Post by joeking1978 on Jan 14, 2015 22:33:13 GMT -5
Nope www.foxnews.com/health/2014/12/04/is-running-actually-bad-for-your-knees/The most common running injuries hit the knees. But running isn't to blame. "Running gets a bad rap, but running can strengthen the knee, and those who run throughout their lives have stronger knees than those who don't," according to physical therapist Michael Silverman, P.T., M.S.P.T., coordinator of the Tisch Performance Center at the Hospital for Special Surgery. My orthopedic says otherwise, and since he's seen the inside of my knees, I'll trust his judgment. But I also have very tight hamstrings, which is a compounding factor for both the knees and low back. The problem is that he isn't completely wrong or right. There is not a black and white- definitive recommendation with running. For a lot of people- it can be bad, especially if they have poor mechanics. The repetitive impact from running will accentuate the weakest link in your musculoskeletal chain and without proper mechanics- it could cause injury. That said- for many others- running will have a significant benefit. If I don't run for a month- the next time I go out, my knees will be sore as hell. After a week or two- they feel like I could squat a house. Unfortunately, when you are collecting social security like Hoff- running is a bad recommendation. There's a point of degeneration/deterioration with the extremities and joints that you can't come back from. Unless you have been actively working to maintain a baseline of core strength and are running consistently... It's not a hobby you can healthy pick up between bingo nights.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 22:59:08 GMT -5
Nope www.foxnews.com/health/2014/12/04/is-running-actually-bad-for-your-knees/The most common running injuries hit the knees. But running isn't to blame. "Running gets a bad rap, but running can strengthen the knee, and those who run throughout their lives have stronger knees than those who don't," according to physical therapist Michael Silverman, P.T., M.S.P.T., coordinator of the Tisch Performance Center at the Hospital for Special Surgery. My orthopedic says otherwise, and since he's seen the inside of my knees, I'll trust his judgment. But I also have very tight hamstrings, which is a compounding factor for both the knees and low back. You've always seemed like a guy that's a little tight in the strings.
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Post by philly on Jan 15, 2015 8:23:38 GMT -5
Treadmill gets delivered tomorrow. Mine comes tomorrow hopefully. Weighs over 300lbs.
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Post by jrolla on Jan 15, 2015 8:30:03 GMT -5
Not to get off topic but I made a post responding to mtdman regarding HIIT and it's not here today. I know it posted yesterday so I was wondering what happened to it? I don't think there was anything in there worth deleting by Mods. Not a big deal by any means.
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Post by philly on Jan 15, 2015 8:38:23 GMT -5
Not to get off topic but I made a post responding to mtdman regarding HIIT and it's not here today. I know it posted yesterday so I was wondering what happened to it? I don't think there was anything in there worth deleting by Mods. Not a big deal by any means. I think I remember reading it. No idea why it's gone.
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Post by joeking1978 on Jan 15, 2015 8:51:39 GMT -5
Treadmill gets delivered tomorrow. Mine comes tomorrow hopefully. Weighs over 300lbs. Yeah, I was going to order one of the Nordic Track Elite models and found out that their $150 delivery charge was just to leave a 400lbs box at my front door. Ended up getting a True PS800 model from Gym Source instead. Cost me another grand, but they white glove that bish with a full set up. Plus the warranties were ridiculous. Lifetime Frame, 30 years on motor, 10 yrs on parts and electronics, 5 years on labor. Had a reversable deck to increase life as well as a really cushy Orthopaedic belt. They had it for 20% off at the store by me... Which also helped. It doesn't have some of the gimmicky iFit software and programs that the Nordic Track, Free Motion and ProForm had... Which is fine as the more I read reviews- the worse they were for that software.
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Post by philly on Jan 15, 2015 9:13:42 GMT -5
Mine comes tomorrow hopefully. Weighs over 300lbs. Yeah, I was going to order one of the Nordic Track Elite models and found out that their $150 delivery charge was just to leave a 400lbs box at my front door. Ended up getting a True PS800 model from Gym Source instead. Cost me another grand, but they white glove that bish with a full set up. Plus the warranties were ridiculous. Lifetime Frame, 30 years on motor, 10 yrs on parts and electronics, 5 years on labor. Had a reversable deck to increase life as well as a really cushy Orthopaedic belt. They had it for 20% off at the store by me... Which also helped. It doesn't have some of the gimmicky iFit software and programs that the Nordic Track, Free Motion and ProForm had... Which is fine as the more I read reviews- the worse they were for that software. Definitely worth the money. You'll probably be able to give it to your kids in 20 years. I got the ps100 because I actually liked the non orthopedic belt better for running. Wearing hoka's with the ortho belt felt like too much cushion.
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Post by joeking1978 on Jan 15, 2015 9:35:14 GMT -5
Hoka the orthodox's? Lol. Even google was confused by this.
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Post by philly on Jan 15, 2015 9:38:23 GMT -5
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Post by mtdman on Jan 15, 2015 11:31:01 GMT -5
Not to get off topic but I made a post responding to mtdman regarding HIIT and it's not here today. I know it posted yesterday so I was wondering what happened to it? I don't think there was anything in there worth deleting by Mods. Not a big deal by any means. I did not see it. Post it again.
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