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Post by steve6884 on Jan 1, 2015 16:54:02 GMT -5
Pick six and face mask penalty killed Baylor. Baylor also went in to puss mode after the facemask penaly. Two short runs and one short pass. Never settle for a field goal in college football
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 1, 2015 16:54:39 GMT -5
Where do I go to sign the Dantonio for President petition?
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 1, 2015 16:57:01 GMT -5
That was the best bowl game I have seen all season. Close score, plenty of offense, great comeback.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 1, 2015 17:14:04 GMT -5
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Post by gobluegirl on Jan 1, 2015 18:18:13 GMT -5
Great win for Sparty. Instant classic.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 1, 2015 18:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 19:03:00 GMT -5
Harbaugh
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Post by luscious on Jan 1, 2015 19:16:14 GMT -5
^it was tuesday at 12:00. they won. Winning pressers is cute....
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Post by AK on Jan 1, 2015 19:17:48 GMT -5
^it was tuesday at 12:00. they won. Winning pressers is cute..... All time winningest presser program to go along with the collection of September heismans
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Post by AK on Jan 1, 2015 19:18:44 GMT -5
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Post by flemgoblue on Jan 1, 2015 22:22:17 GMT -5
Pick six and face mask penalty killed Baylor. pick six block in back, face mask, blocked fg, return of blocked fg and poor clock mgt.. that being said, the penalties were both completely legit and state could have crawled into a shell and didnt. most entertaining game ive seen in a while.
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Post by AK on Jan 2, 2015 0:18:22 GMT -5
Pick six and face mask penalty killed Baylor. pick six block in back, face mask, blocked fg, return of blocked fg and poor clock mgt.. that being said, the penalties were both completely legit and state could have crawled into a shell and didnt. most entertaining game ive seen in a while. They missed a defensive holding on that brutal pick by Conner too
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Post by Juicy on Jan 2, 2015 1:27:42 GMT -5
Ceiling
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 2, 2015 9:24:51 GMT -5
I beleive you are being sarcastic, but I stand by that statement. The argument against Baylor is the same argument against MSU. Other than TCU, who did they beat of any consequence? (And the way TCU played in their bowl, I don't think Baylor would beat them in a rematch, nor would MSU have been able to beat them) Baylor plays a cupcake OOC schedule and a weak conference. How did Big 12 do in their bowl match-ups? OU and UT got absolutely trucked.
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Post by AK on Jan 2, 2015 9:49:50 GMT -5
I beleive you are being sarcastic, but I stand by that statement. The argument against Baylor is the same argument against MSU. Other than TCU, who did they beat of any consequence? (And the way TCU played in their bowl, I don't think Baylor would beat them in a rematch, nor would MSU have been able to beat them) Baylor plays a cupcake OOC schedule and a weak conference. How did Big 12 do in their bowl match-ups? OU and UT got absolutely trucked. So the ceiling is beating a number 2 ranked team in the big10 champ game and the next year coming back and beating the number 5 ranked team in the cotton bowl? That sounds like a few bad Pass interference calls away from having a national title shot. I am ok with that ceiling. Funny thing about a ceiling that high too, might just fuck around and break through it once in a while.
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Post by AK on Jan 2, 2015 9:50:21 GMT -5
Waynes leaving for NFL, good decision for him.
Poor MSU secondary
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 2, 2015 10:01:45 GMT -5
I beleive you are being sarcastic, but I stand by that statement. The argument against Baylor is the same argument against MSU. Other than TCU, who did they beat of any consequence? (And the way TCU played in their bowl, I don't think Baylor would beat them in a rematch, nor would MSU have been able to beat them) Baylor plays a cupcake OOC schedule and a weak conference. How did Big 12 do in their bowl match-ups? OU and UT got absolutely trucked. So the ceiling is beating a number 2 ranked team in the big10 champ game and the next year coming back and beating the number 5 ranked team in the cotton bowl? That sounds like a few bad Pass interference calls away from having a national title shot. I am ok with that ceiling. Funny thing about a ceiling that high too, might just fuck around and break through it once in a while. I don't understand your post. We lost to Ohio State this year. We beat a Number 5 team that was overrated. As far as rankings, MSU is not #3. I would rank as follows: 1 & 2 OSU/Oregon 3 Bama 4 TCU 5 MSU (at best)
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Post by AK on Jan 2, 2015 10:04:17 GMT -5
So the ceiling is beating a number 2 ranked team in the big10 champ game and the next year coming back and beating the number 5 ranked team in the cotton bowl? That sounds like a few bad Pass interference calls away from having a national title shot. I am ok with that ceiling. Funny thing about a ceiling that high too, might just fuck around and break through it once in a while. I don't understand your post. We lost to Ohio State this year. We beat a Number 5 team that was overrated. Ok, so you are just talking about this teams ceiling? This ceiling keeps moving all around.
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Post by AK on Jan 2, 2015 10:04:59 GMT -5
Waynes leaving for NFL, good decision for him. Poor MSU secondary Waynes was a 2 star recruit...that is awesome 2 star to leaving early as the projected top corner in the draft
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 2, 2015 10:07:00 GMT -5
I don't understand your post. We lost to Ohio State this year. We beat a Number 5 team that was overrated. Ok, so you are just talking about this teams ceiling? This ceiling keeps moving all around. How is it moving? I have been very consistent. MSU is not going to beat the top ranked teams. The crap the bed in their big showcase games. Period.
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Post by AK on Jan 2, 2015 10:11:55 GMT -5
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 2, 2015 10:17:56 GMT -5
I'm not dismissing the Cottonbowl win. I just don't give it the same import that you do. And the 2013 season was over in 2013. Even with those wins, they did not qualify for the national championship game because they were not playing on that level. I'm not saying this is a crap team. I stand by my opinion that they are not a Natty caliber team, and are not going to get there. I accept what this team is, and what it isn't. That doesn't mean I don't hate them. I just have realistic view of where they are.
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Post by AK on Jan 2, 2015 10:18:27 GMT -5
So the ceiling is beating a number 2 ranked team in the big10 champ game and the next year coming back and beating the number 5 ranked team in the cotton bowl? That sounds like a few bad Pass interference calls away from having a national title shot. I am ok with that ceiling. Funny thing about a ceiling that high too, might just fuck around and break through it once in a while. I don't understand your post. We lost to Ohio State this year. We beat a Number 5 team that was overrated. As far as rankings, MSU is not #3. I would rank as follows: 1 & 2 OSU/Oregon 3 Bama 4 TCU 5 MSU (at best)i agree with this...and find it amazing that you are turning it into a negative
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 2, 2015 10:22:12 GMT -5
I don't understand your post. We lost to Ohio State this year. We beat a Number 5 team that was overrated. As far as rankings, MSU is not #3. I would rank as follows: 1 & 2 OSU/Oregon 3 Bama 4 TCU 5 MSU (at best)i agree with this...and find it amazing that you are turning it into a negative I'm not making it a negative. I'm fine with it. I think you are inferring a tone to my posts that is not there.
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Post by AK on Jan 2, 2015 10:22:14 GMT -5
I'm not dismissing the Cottonbowl win. I just don't give it the same import that you do. And the 2013 season was over in 2013. Even with those wins, they did not qualify for the national championship game because they were not playing on that level. I'm not saying this is a crap team. I stand by my opinion that they are not a Natty caliber team, and are not going to get there. I accept what this team is, and what it isn't. That doesn't mean I don't hate them. I just have realistic view of where they are. ok, my bad. I thought you were talking about Dantonio's ceiling when you said that we are seeing his ceiling. Apparently you just meant that the 2014 team that wasn't in the national championship game isn't national championship caliber. Which I can agree with. This team lost to the only two teams left, so clearly no one is arguing they belong in that game.
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