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Post by ChrisBrown on Feb 17, 2015 10:26:59 GMT -5
The Combine begins this week, with on-field workouts starting this Friday. You can check the list of participants here, and for fans of local teams, the following guys will be working out (click for the NFL scouting report): Donald Celiscar - CB - Western Michigan (2/23) Frank Clark - DE - Michigan (2/22) Titus Davis - WR - Central Michigan (2/21) Kurtis Drummond - FS - Michigan State (2/23) Devin Funchess - TE - Michigan (2/20) Listed at TE, so I assume he'll work out with the tight ends and not the receivers Taiwan Jones - ILB - Michigan State (2/22) Jeremy Langford - RB - Michigan State (2/21) Tony Lippett - WR - Michigan State (2/21) Not sure if he'll work out at CB at all Keith Mumphery - WR - Michigan State (2/21) Thomas Rawls - RB - Central Michigan (2/21) Ugh...Fred Jackson was kind of the worst Jake Ryan - OLB - Michigan (2/22) Leterrius Walton - DT - Central Michigan (2/22) Trae Waynes - CB - Michigan State (2/23) No idea who the Lions might be targeting, although I assume they want help on the defensive and offensive lines.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Feb 17, 2015 10:42:58 GMT -5
Interesting
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Post by philly on Feb 21, 2015 9:48:34 GMT -5
Funch with a 4.7 40.
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Post by steve6884 on Feb 21, 2015 11:13:30 GMT -5
Bad hands and slow. Lions will draft him
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Post by fastfreddie on Feb 21, 2015 12:25:12 GMT -5
I felt he should have stayed another year, especially once Harbaugh was hired. But he was getting 1st round grades, so it's hard to turn that down. Another year with Harbaugh as coach would have done wonders. He could have played his natural position at TE. It just shows how screwed up this team was under Hoke. Funchess, Gardner, Denard will all be drafted at positions outside of what they played in college.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Feb 21, 2015 16:13:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought for sure Funchess would run like a 4.55 - well, exhibit 45 of why Michigan was terrible under Hoke. Funchess was like the best athlete (non-Peppers category) that Hoke ever landed, and he's just kind of meh.
Also interesting seeing Dee Hart out there running 4.8s, Thomas Rawls running 4.67, and Langford running 4.43 twice. I had no idea he was fast.
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Post by fastfreddie on Feb 21, 2015 17:29:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought for sure Funchess would run like a 4.55 - well, exhibit 45 of why Michigan was terrible under Hoke. Funchess was like the best athlete (non-Peppers category) that Hoke ever landed, and he's just kind of meh. Also interesting seeing Dee Hart out there running 4.8s, Thomas Rawls running 4.67, and Langford running 4.43 twice. I had no idea he was fast. I'm going to beat a dead horse here a bit, but Denard should have been a tailback, and Gardner WR. They should have bit the bullet with Morris and started him as a freshman. Then they could have left Funchess at TE. Of course all of this is working on the assumption the previous staff could develop a QB. It would have been bumpy at QB to start, but you'd hope after enough experience that stuff would work it's way out. Essentially that is where Harbaugh will be this fall, unless that transfer kid comes in and starts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 21:20:52 GMT -5
Deez Nuts ran 4.8s? Lol
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Post by aaugusti on Feb 21, 2015 22:26:07 GMT -5
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Post by joeking1978 on Feb 21, 2015 23:15:48 GMT -5
Aug- I need cliffs
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Post by ChrisBrown on Feb 22, 2015 10:55:49 GMT -5
I'm going to beat a dead horse here a bit, but Denard should have been a tailback, and Gardner WR. They should have bit the bullet with Morris and started him as a freshman. Then they could have left Funchess at TE. Of course all of this is working on the assumption the previous staff could develop a QB. It would have been bumpy at QB to start, but you'd hope after enough experience that stuff would work it's way out. Essentially that is where Harbaugh will be this fall, unless that transfer kid comes in and starts. The previous offensive staff couldn't do a damn thing right, so it doesn't really matter, but where they really screwed themselves was putting way too much faith in Shane Morris. Their QB evaluation was just awful...they added Bellomy, who couldn't do anything, and then they only took one QB in the next two seasons, and it was a kid who barely played as a senior in high school. Denard and Gardner ending up being the best options at QB by a wide margin, because the other options were basically nonexistent.
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Post by steve6884 on Feb 22, 2015 11:54:04 GMT -5
I am surprised Winston's 40 time was almost 5.0
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 13:53:27 GMT -5
I'm going to beat a dead horse here a bit, but Denard should have been a tailback, and Gardner WR. They should have bit the bullet with Morris and started him as a freshman. Then they could have left Funchess at TE. Of course all of this is working on the assumption the previous staff could develop a QB. It would have been bumpy at QB to start, but you'd hope after enough experience that stuff would work it's way out. Essentially that is where Harbaugh will be this fall, unless that transfer kid comes in and starts. The previous offensive staff couldn't do a damn thing right, so it doesn't really matter, but where they really screwed themselves was putting way too much faith in Shane Morris. Their QB evaluation was just awful...they added Bellomy, who couldn't do anything, and then they only took one QB in the next two seasons, and it was a kid who barely played as a senior in high school. Denard and Gardner ending up being the best options at QB by a wide margin, because the other options were basically nonexistent. Gardner was a 5 star recruit. I think sugar was too?
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Post by ChrisBrown on Feb 23, 2015 9:54:30 GMT -5
The previous offensive staff couldn't do a damn thing right, so it doesn't really matter, but where they really screwed themselves was putting way too much faith in Shane Morris. Their QB evaluation was just awful...they added Bellomy, who couldn't do anything, and then they only took one QB in the next two seasons, and it was a kid who barely played as a senior in high school. Denard and Gardner ending up being the best options at QB by a wide margin, because the other options were basically nonexistent. Gardner was a 5 star recruit. I think sugar was too? I think they were both 5-stars according to Scout and 4-stars to everyone else. But Gardner was a RichRod recruit, and Morris was always a huge boom or bust guy. Hoke and staff didn't attempt to build any depth at the most important position on the field, and it cost them dearly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 10:22:37 GMT -5
Gardner was a 5 star recruit. I think sugar was too? I think they were both 5-stars according to Scout and 4-stars to everyone else. But Gardner was a RichRod recruit, and Morris was always a huge boom or bust guy. Hoke and staff didn't attempt to build any depth at the most important position on the field, and it cost them dearly. Gardner was basically the downfall of Hoke. He gambled and lost.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Feb 23, 2015 10:49:05 GMT -5
I think they were both 5-stars according to Scout and 4-stars to everyone else. But Gardner was a RichRod recruit, and Morris was always a huge boom or bust guy. Hoke and staff didn't attempt to build any depth at the most important position on the field, and it cost them dearly. Gardner was basically the downfall of Hoke. He gambled and lost. See, I think Hoke being a shitty coach was the downfall of Hoke. Gardner was pretty damn good when he came in as the emergency starter after Denard got hurt. But then then rest of the team kept getting worse and worse, particularly the offensive line, and it basically destroyed Gardner. And there were very few other legitimate options at QB, because of the lack of depth they recruited there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 10:56:05 GMT -5
Gardner was basically the downfall of Hoke. He gambled and lost. See, I think Hoke being a shitty coach was the downfall of Hoke. Gardner was pretty damn good when he came in as the emergency starter after Denard got hurt. But then then rest of the team kept getting worse and worse, particularly the offensive line, and it basically destroyed Gardner. And there were very few other legitimate options at QB, because of the lack of depth they recruited there. I definitely won't challenge you on him being shitty, but Gardner never sold me that he was a legit QB.
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Post by philly on Feb 23, 2015 11:07:18 GMT -5
Sounds like Clark killed it at the combine. It will be interesting to see if anyone drafts him.
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Post by aaugusti on Feb 23, 2015 11:24:23 GMT -5
I would be surprised if Clark gets drafted. More than a few scouts said he blamed the woman in his most recent domestic violence issue.
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Post by philly on Feb 23, 2015 11:30:28 GMT -5
I'd take a chance at the end of the draft. He's obviously an idiot but so are a lot of people in the NFL.
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Post by philly on Feb 23, 2015 13:03:37 GMT -5
Waynes ran a 4.31
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 13:22:49 GMT -5
Waynes ran a 4.31 Is Waynes lock down? I barely watched college football this year out of disgust. I thought MSU's secondary was getting torched.
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Post by joeking1978 on Feb 23, 2015 13:23:13 GMT -5
He'll go top 10
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 13:34:17 GMT -5
Where is Jake Ryan supposed to go?
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Post by joeking1978 on Feb 23, 2015 14:03:35 GMT -5
Probably to Green Bay... Packers are looking to build the great hair team
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