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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 13, 2015 9:48:54 GMT -5
What effects, if any, will the 2015 OSU National Championship have on UM and MSU?
My quick reaction: Negative 1. Recruiting. OSU was already seen above UM and MSU, but now they will turn into a complete recruiting machine. In fact, I can see them challenging Alabama for the #1 spot for the next several years. I guess one good thing is that (especially on offense), Urban Meyer recruits slightly different style of players.
Positive 2. Their win does lend some credibility to the Big Ten. However, MSU and UM will need to beat OSU sometime soon. Otherwise, the national narrative will be OSU is in a league by themselves (most like an SEC team), and no one else can compete.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 13, 2015 10:11:03 GMT -5
I think you pretty much nailed it. Ohio State was always going to get the best players in Ohio, but with Urban Meyer they've really been able to go grab some of the top players in the country, and that's only gonna happen more frequently. Michigan and MSU just need to step up their game, which I think they both can do.
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Post by flemgoblue on Jan 13, 2015 12:19:38 GMT -5
I dont think OSU winning has any positive impact to UM and MSU
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Post by philly on Jan 13, 2015 12:48:02 GMT -5
With FSU's shitty performance, I think an undefeated team could possibly be left out of the playoff if they look bad enough. If the B1G didn't perform well this year, that could have happened next year. I guess that's a slight positive for the conference.
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Post by smoothskillzz on Jan 13, 2015 13:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 13, 2015 13:42:46 GMT -5
I dont think OSU winning has any positive impact to UM and MSU The negatives far outweigh the positives. The way I see it, its up the Mark Dantonio and MSU to stop OSU in the short run. UM and PSU aren't in a position to do so this early on. Their going to need some time to get it going.
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Post by caper on Jan 13, 2015 20:35:09 GMT -5
saw somewhere that 3 of the to 5 rb recruits for 2016 ( next years class ) have already committed to osu. crazy
hopefully this will help weber to michigan ( doubt it )
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Post by mtdman on Jan 13, 2015 21:01:44 GMT -5
If you are a top player at a skilled position there is only so much playing time availa le on the field. If you are looking at a lot of depth in front of you you have to consider going elsewhere. Hardballs is on the clock now and we will see what he does to pull in talent. Part of your pitch has to be come to michigan as we reignite the rivalry and look to unseat ohio.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 22:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by joeking1978 on Jan 14, 2015 8:33:32 GMT -5
Hhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 14, 2015 8:41:35 GMT -5
saw somewhere that 3 of the to 5 rb recruits for 2016 ( next years class ) have already committed to osu. crazy hopefully this will help weber to michigan ( doubt it ) Yes, I cannot see all those players remaining committed. But as with their QBs, OSU seems to have been much more successful/fortunate in adding and keeping high rated depth. But OSU seems to be the exception to the rule. I think like you say above, in this modern era of (almost) everyone makes a bowl game, everyone is on TV, the 24 hour news cycle, Conference Networks, reduced scholarships.......more kids are deciding they would rather have a better opportunity to start at a smaller school, rather than be buried on the depth chart at a powerhouse.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 14, 2015 8:44:23 GMT -5
saw somewhere that 3 of the to 5 rb recruits for 2016 ( next years class ) have already committed to osu. crazy hopefully this will help weber to michigan ( doubt it ) Yes, I cannot see all those players remaining committed. But as with their QBs, OSU seems to have been much more successful/fortunate in adding and keeping high rated depth. But OSU seems to be the exception to the rule. I think like you say above, in this modern era of (almost) everyone makes a bowl game, everyone is on TV, the 24 hour news cycle, Conference Networks, reduced scholarships.......more kids are deciding they would rather have a better opportunity to start at a smaller school, rather than be buried on the depth chart at a powerhouse. In otherwords, football is starting to follow the basketball model. Parity develops as kids understand it's better to play and be seen that sit and not be seen.
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 14, 2015 9:20:23 GMT -5
Yes, I cannot see all those players remaining committed. But as with their QBs, OSU seems to have been much more successful/fortunate in adding and keeping high rated depth. But OSU seems to be the exception to the rule. I think like you say above, in this modern era of (almost) everyone makes a bowl game, everyone is on TV, the 24 hour news cycle, Conference Networks, reduced scholarships.......more kids are deciding they would rather have a better opportunity to start at a smaller school, rather than be buried on the depth chart at a powerhouse. In otherwords, football is starting to follow the basketball model. Parity develops as kids understand it's better to play and be seen that sit and not be seen. I think so, although OSU seems to be the exception to the rule. I suppose you will have this at the very top, like we have seen with Kentucky Basketball and Alabama Football. I can still remember the day, when College Football teams were only on TV twice a season, and a very limited number of teams went to bowls. I think there was a rule at one point, that only one BigTen could go to a bowl?
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Post by philly on Jan 14, 2015 9:24:27 GMT -5
Meyer will win another natty next year and head to the NFL. Then Tressel will come back.
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Post by psycaz on Jan 14, 2015 9:46:13 GMT -5
Anything that starts to negate the stigma that the Big Ten sucks helps everyone in the conference.
Kids wanna play where they'll get recognition and have a better chance at the pros. Why do you think the lesser schools in the SEC are coming up? You get more cred for playing in that conference. Even if you're team isn't winning it. You're playing against that talent.
Same thing will hopefully happen with the Big Ten. They'll draw the better talent as there's playing time and it'll be viewed as a bonus to have played in the league come the draft.
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Post by psycaz on Jan 14, 2015 9:49:39 GMT -5
In otherwords, football is starting to follow the basketball model. Parity develops as kids understand it's better to play and be seen that sit and not be seen. I think so, although OSU seems to be the exception to the rule. I suppose you will have this at the very top, like we have seen with Kentucky Basketball and Alabama Football. I can still remember the day, when College Football teams were only on TV twice a season, and a very limited number of teams went to bowls. I think there was a rule at one point, that only one BigTen could go to a bowl? The famous Dennis Franklin era. Kid goes 30-2-1 and never gets to play in a bowl game due to the stupid Big Ten rules.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 14, 2015 10:05:05 GMT -5
I think so, although OSU seems to be the exception to the rule. I suppose you will have this at the very top, like we have seen with Kentucky Basketball and Alabama Football. I can still remember the day, when College Football teams were only on TV twice a season, and a very limited number of teams went to bowls. I think there was a rule at one point, that only one BigTen could go to a bowl? The famous Dennis Franklin era. Kid goes 30-2-1 and never gets to play in a bowl game due to the stupid Big Ten rules. ACC had that rule as well for a long time. When South Carolina was in the ACC, they won the regular season, but lost the conference tourney. ACC sent the tourney champ only. That's allegedly one of the reasons SC left the ACC and was C-USA before going SEC in the 90s.
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 14, 2015 10:54:09 GMT -5
One thing related to this, that I find interesting. A lot of times on a Saturday afternoon, on ABC Channel 7 in Detroit, you will find Eastern Michigan, Bowling Green, Toledo and other local teams playing on Live over the air television. Meanwhile, UM/MSU are on BTN or ESPN, and don't always get viewed by non-cable, non-sports package viewers.
I always wonder what impact that might have, going into the future.
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