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Post by The Hoff on Jan 6, 2015 15:42:02 GMT -5
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Post by philly on Jan 6, 2015 16:01:39 GMT -5
Biggio didn't seem like a hall of fame player to me.
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Post by The Hoff on Jan 6, 2015 16:27:45 GMT -5
Biggio didn't seem like a hall of fame player to me. Yeah, kind of a reliable journeyman player. But IMO, they let too many into the halls of fame anyway. It should be the very best, not anyone above average.
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Post by irishjim on Jan 8, 2015 1:25:28 GMT -5
I didn’t feel Biggio (.281 BA) was Hall of Fame material either. However, he is a member of the 3000 hit club (3060 hits over 20 years). And the only player in baseball history with at least 3,000 hits, 600 doubles, 400 stolen bases and 250 home runs.
But when you compare him to the likes of Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Hank Aaron Jackie Robinson, Rogers Hornsby, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, Joe Cronin, Mickey Cochrane, Jimmie Foxx, Al Simmons, Charley Gehringer, Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella, Ernie Banks and Hank Greenberg he doesn’t quite measure up.
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Post by thecouncil on Jan 6, 2016 19:12:57 GMT -5
Is the baseball HOF the worst thing in sports?
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 6, 2016 19:14:56 GMT -5
Is the baseball HOF the worst thing in sports? It may be.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 7, 2016 11:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by thecouncil on Jan 7, 2016 15:53:50 GMT -5
The sanctimony of the average 50+ year old baseball writer is the biggest reason.
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Post by ChrisBrown on Jan 7, 2016 17:04:01 GMT -5
The sanctimony of the average 50+ year old baseball writer is the biggest reason. Ahh, well, yes there is a huge element of self seriousness among the baseball writers. I will say that the Hall did a good thing by stripping away voting privileges from the old-timers who don't regularly cover baseball anymore. That's a big reason guys like Bonds and Clemens saw big jumps this year...younger writers either don't care as much about PEDs or feel slightly complicit.
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Post by thecouncil on Jan 7, 2016 18:20:08 GMT -5
I just hate the conversations after each vote. People act like the hall of fame should have something to do with morality as opposed to how well you play baseball.
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Post by flemgoblue on Jan 8, 2016 6:37:27 GMT -5
It's the only publicly relevant thing a lot of those guys do and they take it way too seriously
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Post by philly on Jan 8, 2016 8:20:15 GMT -5
I just hate the conversations after each vote. People act like the hall of fame should have something to do with morality as opposed to how well you play baseball. and half the sports writers making the judgments of morality have probably done worse things. Bill Conlin, a hall of fame baseball writer, was a convicted child molester.
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Post by flemgoblue on Jan 8, 2016 8:47:08 GMT -5
The whole "babe didn't get 100%" thing is dumb too
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Post by Pollux on Jan 8, 2016 8:50:17 GMT -5
The whole "babe didn't get 100%" thing is dumb too "You're a Hall of Famer, just not a first ballot Hall of Famer."
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Post by fastfreddie on Jan 8, 2016 14:58:51 GMT -5
lol..... Roy Halladay ✔ @royhalladay When you use PEDs you admit your not good enough to compete fairly! Our nations past time should have higher standards! No Clemens no Bonds!
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Post by Pollux on Jan 8, 2016 15:51:00 GMT -5
lol..... Roy Halladay ✔ @royhalladay When you use PEDs you admit your not good enough to compete fairly! Our nations past time should have higher standards! No Clemens no Bonds! Bonds was a Hall of Famer before he started juicing. Clements didn't do it the whole time either. That being said I'm happy they're staying consistent in keeping them all out as opposed to letting some in and keeping some out.
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Post by fastfreddie on Oct 4, 2016 9:51:45 GMT -5
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